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Advice on New MK2 FR TDI CR

AndrewJB

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Aug 16, 2007
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Hi All got a few questions for you MK2 Owners


Im looking at getting rid of my MK4 ibiza soon as i want a change , Originally had by Heart set on a MK1 LCR but i test drove a MK2 Leon Cupra yesterday and i was blown away :D

but..... insurance have said NO , 20 yr old , 3 years NCB , No claims, No Points :confused: but will insure me on a MK1 LCR :confused:


Anyway

Im a Senior member on TDIsport.com so i figured might aswell stick with a TDI so naturally decided MK2 Leon TDI CR 170, My questions are


How tuneable are the new Common Rail engines? im only used to dealing with PD ones, im talking along the lines Of Free Flowing exhaust system , Better Filters and Then a Custom Remap and also How much we talking to remove this DPF system


So what have people done to There CR TDI's?
 
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jezyg

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Feb 21, 2003
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The CR 170 is pretty much as tuneable as the Pump Duse system, a standard remap will get you around 205Bhp and 400NM torque,then there are the usual air filter and exhaust replacments available. Although the FL FR TDi one is from the Gilf GTD and tuned to sound a bit more roarty.

There is a thread on here about DPF removal from only last week and was said to be a positive improvemnt and can be done by a specialist tuner. It is a quick motor out of the bag and with a bit of tunning a pretty rapid car with the extra torque offsetting to a point the shortage of power compared to a MK 2 LC
 
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DPF removal and remap is around £800. Apparently it transforms the car though.

Although the FL FR TDi one is from the Golf GTD and tuned to sound a bit more roarty.

I thought the one i demo'd sounded pretty meaty for a diesel but i didnt know it was the same lump as the Golf GTD... mind you... its like a big part swapping party at VAG so why not !
 
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AndrewJB

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Aug 16, 2007
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Ive been and Test drove it today


Obviously it will feel amazing compared to my 100bhp 1.4TDI , but..... i prefered the TDI CR 170BHP to the Petrol Cupra

obviously i prefer the looks of the cupra but actual driving style the TDI was nicer to drive , maybe its because im used to a TDI
 

tissot

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Jan 3, 2007
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ive had a PD version and got a CR version now.

There are several companies outthere doing remaps. they will go up to about 200bhp, but watch for the torque these figures differ quite a bit.

You can change the air filter as well, this helps a little.

But if you get rid of the DPF then a remap will be better. Miltek do a bypass and full system which is supposed to be good.

Ive had both of mine re-mapped by the same company and the CR seems better than the PD version

Hope this helps
 

AndrewJB

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yeh thats Great , compared to my Tiny PD lump the CR wasnt noisy at all


If i had it id get the Exhaust First with DPF Removal , Airfilter and then get a custom map
 

jezyg

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Feb 21, 2003
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Ive been and Test drove it today


Obviously it will feel amazing compared to my 100bhp 1.4TDI , but..... i prefered the TDI CR 170BHP to the Petrol Cupra

obviously i prefer the looks of the cupra but actual driving style the TDI was nicer to drive , maybe its because im used to a TDI

Cupra and FR use the same bodykit the cupra has some extra cutouts and a black insert on the front bumper were the number plate goes and different shape exhaust on the rear. The only other difference is the wheels although you can spec black orion's that are from the pre fl Cupra!! Oh and obvioulsy different badges and balck instead of silver mirrros unless you spec black orions and the mirrors are also black same as the Cupra.
 

AndrewJB

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Aug 16, 2007
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Cupra and FR use the same bodykit the cupra has some extra cutouts and a black insert on the front bumper were the number plate goes and different shape exhaust on the rear. The only other difference is the wheels although you can spec black orion's that are from the pre fl Cupra!! Oh and obvioulsy different badges and balck instead of silver mirrros unless you spec black orions and the mirrors are also black same as the Cupra.


Well if i do order it , im gonna order it with 18" black wheels , im gonna get the Cupra black mirror covers and cupra black grill and would like the Black insert on front bumper aswell
 

jezyg

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Feb 21, 2003
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Well if i do order it , im gonna order it with 18" black wheels , im gonna get the Cupra black mirror covers and cupra black grill and would like the Black insert on front bumper aswell

If you order the black wheels you will get the black Cupra mirror covers as standard :)

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AndrewJB

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Aug 16, 2007
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Very Nice always wanted a White car since i was told i cudnt have my ibiza in white because it wasnt a FR or Cupra , but i quite like the Blue now.

Definetly needs the Cupra grill and black bumper insert tho
 

jezyg

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Very Nice always wanted a White car since i was told i cudnt have my ibiza in white because it wasnt a FR or Cupra , but i quite like the Blue now.

Definetly needs the Cupra grill and black bumper insert tho

If you get the part no's + cost let me know as would like to do the same on our FR.
 

AndrewJB

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Aug 16, 2007
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You Carnt get the Front Cupra grill yet?


Should be able to as its a standard Cupra Part


*update* ive been informed that the cupra grill can be got for £55 , but.......black cupra mirrors are unavailable for the FL models?
 
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product

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If you order the black wheels you will get the black Cupra mirror covers as standard :)
That's changed from Build Week 45 actually, FRs will come out of the factory on silver mirrors regardless of the alloy option...

(And Cupras stay black even with the white alloys.) :)
 

jezyg

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Feb 21, 2003
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That's changed from Build Week 45 actually, FRs will come out of the factory on silver mirrors regardless of the alloy option...

(And Cupras stay black even with the white alloys.) :)


That's probably to help ease production and reduce £££££ a shame as made sense to have matching cuff's and collar's :confused:
 

treehugger

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Sep 15, 2006
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That's changed from Build Week 45 actually, FRs will come out of the factory on silver mirrors regardless of the alloy option...

(And Cupras stay black even with the white alloys.) :)

I wonder what mine will come with then, build week 44, hopefully black mirrors but the way everything else has gone, I doubt it!!!!