Logging done after remap...

[Mr OCD]

Any care to comment on the logs?

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
	Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC	TIME				
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °ATDC	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
0.39	2000	23.69	15.3	9	0.01	0	0	0	0
1.29	2240	47.19	99.6	12	0.79	0	0	0	0
2.09	2560	72.81	100	11.3	1.69	0	0	0	0
2.9	3040	106.56	100	7.5	2.5	0	0	0	0
3.7	3560	121.64	100	9.8	3.3	0	0	0	0
4.52	4040	130.89	100	9.8	4.1	0	0	0	0
5.41	4560	142.17	100	15.8	4.92	0	0	0	0
6.42	5120	156.72	100	14.3	5.93	0	0	3	0
7.24	5520	160.33	100	16.5	6.82	3	0	3	3
8.13	5960	164.67	100	18	7.73	3	3	3	3
8.95	6280	163.61	100	18	8.53	2.3	3	2.3	2.3
9.75	6520	168.08	100	18	9.35	2.3	6	5.3	5.3

Group A:	'115				Group B:	'031	
	Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor
TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME		
STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP		
0.4	2320	116.5	2260	1530	0	0.899	0.899
1.2	2680	142.1	2290	1880	0.8	0.883	0.891
2.02	3120	171.4	2300	2280	1.6	0.891	0.891
2.91	3640	174.4	2190	2240	2.51	0.867	0.891
3.73	4080	166.9	2190	2220	3.31	0.867	0.883
4.53	4480	163.2	2080	2140	4.13	0.875	0.86
5.33	4920	157.9	2100	2090	4.93	0.86	0.86
6.24	5320	154.9	2030	2020	5.73	0.852	0.86
7.06	5680	147.4	1980	1950	6.64	0.828	0.836
7.93	6040	141.4	1940	1880	7.55	0.828	0.828
8.75	6320	136.1	1950	1880	8.35	0.828	0.821
9.66	6600	130.8	1660	1850	9.17	0.828	0.844

Group A:	'118				Group B:	'032	
	Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost		Idle O2 Adapt	Run O2 Adapt
TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar	TIME	-10.1	-10.1
STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar	STAMP	%	%
0.5	2200	34	86.3	1390	0	-0.6	-0.8
1.41	2560	34	86.3	1780	1.01	-0.6	-0.8
2.21	2920	36	86.3	2180	1.81	-0.6	-0.8
3.01	3400	36	83.5	2270	2.61	-0.6	-0.8
3.82	3840	38	84.3	2250	3.41	-0.6	-0.8
4.62	4280	39	84.7	2200	4.22	-0.6	-0.8
5.42	4680	42	84.7	2130	5.02	-0.6	-0.8
6.24	5080	45	85.5	2070	5.84	-0.6	-0.8
7.04	5440	48	84.7	2000	6.64	-0.6	-0.8
7.86	5760	50	83.9	1920	7.44	-0.6	-0.8
8.66	6040	53	84.7	1870	8.26	-0.6	-0.8
9.45	6320	55	85.1	1840	9.05	-0.6	-0.8
10.37	6480	57	0	1920	9.97	-0.6	-0.8

 

[james walker]

looks fine to me.. little bit of timing pul at 6500k there. but not bad.

boost looks good, maf about right for stage 1 mapping

 

[Mr OCD]

Timing pull due to increased temps at that rpm?

 

[james walker]

id say so, 57 quite high temps, but on full rpm.... id say nothing to worry about mate.

rest of it looks good

 

[ScoobyJawa]

Just out of interest were those runs in 3rd or 4th?

 

[james walker]

id say 3rd from the time taken to get to 6500k 9 secs?

 

[Mr OCD]

Yup 3rd gear... the Wife was in passenger seat logging for me and I dont think she was too comfortable in 3rd gear at high rpm let alone 4th

 

[Mr OCD]

id say so, 57 quite high temps, but on full rpm.... id say nothing to worry about mate.

rest of it looks good

Cheers

The custom map is working well then

 

[james walker]

what custom map was it mate... 205 seems a generic type map?

custom usually takes in mods such as higher flow dp and cat etc

 

[Mr OCD]

what custom map was it mate... 205 seems a generic type map?

custom usually takes in mods such as higher flow dp and cat etc

It was done by a customer of mine who does bespoke mapping for a lot of major companies. They start with a base line then modify the parameters using software they have and their experience ... it took a full day including dyno sessions.

To put a cost on it would be around £1500 but my customer did it for nothing

205bhp is a little lower than some companies reckon they offer but this was on a dyno dymanics rolling road which is known for accuracy and we were tuning for torque rather than outright bhp figure. It was also worth noting the car was only producing 170bhp standard for some reason...

It was also a reading done without sufficient cooling to the SMIC which is another story...

On the road ... logs point to around 210bhp.

 

[james walker]

1500 quid... bloody hell, thats an expensive map for 25bhp that is.

what torque did it achieve then? just seens 252 ftlb

end of the day, bhp means squat, its driveability and smile factor that win hands down. as long as your happy with it.

 

[J0N]

1500 quid... bloody hell, thats an expensive map for 25bhp that is.

 

[james walker]

halfway to hybrid money that!!!

well he did get it for free though, so bonus

 

[Mr OCD]

Ask how much a company who does remapping will charge for a remap + one days dyno session to get it spot on and see how much they say...

Awesome for example charge £105+ VAT per hour

It drives perfectly and the curves are perfect...

 

[james walker]

p-torque, 320quid on mine.. custom map on the dyno... took will 6 hours to perfect, came out with 234bhp and similar levels of torque.

 

[Mr OCD]

1500 quid... bloody hell, thats an expensive map for 25bhp that is.

what torque did it achieve then? just seens 252 ftlb

end of the day, bhp means squat, its driveability and smile factor that win hands down. as long as your happy with it.

Aye its not money I'd pay myself but I'll tell you this...

Stock... it produced 169bhp and 173lbft

Generic Remap by well known tuning company (supposed to be 212bhp/225lbft ) produced 181bhp and 225lbft with a **** power and torque curve (drove fine on the road though)

Custom Remap... 205bhp and 252lbft with perfect power and torque curves and an improvement of 3-4mpg with better light throttle response.

It's night and day imho between a generic remap and the custom done...

I might have been unlucky with the generic remap but I found it quite jerky and aggressive on light throttle inputs... fine on full throttle...

 

[Mr OCD]

p-torque, 320quid on mine.. custom map on the dyno... took will 6 hours to perfect, came out with 234bhp and similar levels of torque.

That's a bargain imho

 

[james walker]

custom code, revo etc etc charge usually 500quid ish for custom maps... so 1500 seems extorcionate, unless were missing something

 

[Andy3004]

p-torque, 320quid on mine.. custom map on the dyno... took will 6 hours to perfect, came out with 234bhp and similar levels of torque.

did you have a front mount on that? Was thinking of getting my P-torque st1 tweaked to st2, but unsure whether to get FMIC first...I know it's not 100% needed etc. just curious!

 

[james walker]

nope, standard smic.. mapping wont affect fmic, can add that later.

your mods will go well with p-torque stage 2 mate