Logs 2nd opinion Needed

Big_daddy · Oct 4, 2009

This mk3 ibiza cupra - Mods amd stg1, catback exhaust, cai air filter, forge tip..

Code:

	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'115			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP		%	Requested	Actual
	0.77	1800	29.5	100	9	0.37	1680	49.6	1000	1020
	1.57	2000	41.39	100	3.8	1.17	1880	86.5	1990	1170
	2.37	2280	54.17	100	3	1.97	2120	107.5	1940	1420
	3.17	2600	71.69	100	6.8	2.75	2400	128.6	1890	1720
	4.06	3000	77.89	100	7.5	3.66	2800	136.8	1900	1810
	4.86	3360	91.42	100	10.5	4.46	3160	139.8	1870	1800
	5.78	3760	102.42	100	12	5.38	3560	139.8	1840	1810
	6.67	4120	109.61	100	13.5	6.17	3920	139.1	1860	1790
	7.47	4440	117.89	100	15	7.07	4280	139.1	1840	1770
	8.37	4760	129.25	99.6	16.5	7.97	4640	141.4	1810	1770
	9.26	5080	136.14	99.6	14.3	8.86	4960	142.1	1830	1760
	10.16	5400	140.14	100	12.8	9.76	5280	140.6	1820	1750
	10.96	5600	140.11	100	15.8	10.56	5520	135.3	1800	1740
	11.76	5840	144.08	100	12	11.36	5720	130.1	1800	1720
	12.56	6000	142.33	100	15	12.16	5920	128.6	1750	1690
	13.36	6160	146.89	70.2	14.3	12.96	6080	125.6	1710	1670

Code:

	Group A:	'031				Group B:	'020			
		Voltage	Voltage	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
	TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 V	 V			STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
	0.4	0.785	0.79	        	        	0	3.8	3.8	0	0
	1.2	0.795	0.785	        	        	0.8	3.8	3	0	0
	2	0.805	0.795	        	        	1.6	3.8	3	0	0
	2.8	0.82	0.81	        	        	2.4	3	2.3	0	0
	3.6	0.825	0.815	        	        	3.2	1.5	1.5	0	0
	4.38	0.825	0.815	        	        	4	0.8	0	0	0
	5.29	0.83	0.815	        	        	4.8	0	0	0	0
	6.1	0.83	0.815	        	        	5.69	0	0	0	0
	6.89	0.84	0.815	        	        	6.5	0	0	0	0
	7.69	0.84	0.825	        	        	7.3	0	0	0	0
	8.5	0.865	0.82	        	        	8.1	3	0	0	0
	9.3	0.85	0.815	        	        	8.9	3	3	3	3
	10.21	0.86	0.82	        	        	9.81	3	3	3	3
	10.99	0.865	0.82	        	        	10.61	3	3	3	3
	11.79	0.865	0.815	        	        	11.39	3	3	3	3
	12.59	0.785	0.785	        	        	12.19	0	0	0	0
	13.39	0.03	0.75	        	        	12.99	0	0	0	0
	14.19	0.015	0	        	        	13.79	0	0	0	0
	15.18	0.015	0.005	        	        	14.7	0	0	0	0
	16.09	0.01	0.015	        	        	15.6	0	0	0	0
	16.89	0.01	0.02	        	        	16.49	0	0	0	0
	17.68	0.01	0.03	        	        	17.28	0	0	0	0
	18.49	0.015	0.04	        	        	18.09	0	0	0	0
	19.29	0.08	0.06	        	        	18.89	0	0	0	0
	20.09	0.645	0.08	        	        	19.68	0	0	0	0
	20.87	0.05	0.105	        	        	20.48	0	0	0	0
	21.67	0.015	0.04	        	        	21.28	0	0	0	0
	22.48	0.005	0.04	        	        	22.08	0	0	0	0
	23.48	0.005	0.035	        	        	22.99	0	0	0	0

Code:

	Group A:	'032				Group B:	'118			
		Lambda	Lambda	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	%	%			STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0	0.2	0	        	        	0.4	2000	34	95.3	1090
	0.8	0.2	0	        	        	1.2	2200	33	95.3	1370
	1.6	0.2	0	        	        	2	2480	33	63.5	1680
	2.4	0.2	0	        	        	2.78	2840	32	63.5	1820
	3.18	0.2	0	        	        	3.6	3200	32	64.3	1820
	3.98	0.2	0	        	        	4.4	3560	33	65.9	1820
	4.8	0.2	0	        	        	5.2	3920	33	66.3	1800
	5.6	0.2	0	        	        	6	4200	35	68.2	1810
	6.4	0.2	0	        	        	6.8	4560	37	72.9	1800
	7.2	0.2	0	        	        	7.6	4880	39	74.5	1790
	8	0.2	0	        	        	8.4	5120	42	76.1	1790
	8.8	0.2	0	        	        	9.29	5400	45	82.4	1790
	9.69	0.2	0	        	        	10.09	5640	48	83.5	1770
	10.49	0.2	0	        	        	10.99	5880	50	85.9	1730
	11.39	0.2	0	        	        	11.79	6080	53	86.3	1700

jezzag60 · Oct 5, 2009

What do you want an opinion on......
Looks like the turbo is struggling a touch to make the reqested boost. I'm guessing its only a KO3 though so they do struggle a touch. You could possibly tighted the actuator a smidge just to get a little more out of it.

There is some timing pull there but its not excessive. Sticking v-power in there would help that a bit.

Damoegan · Oct 5, 2009

Inlet temps getting a little high. What cooler you running?

Some timing pull low down, could be caused from starting the power run too low down..

Actual boost not meeting requested, possible boost leak..

MAF is low too..

jezzag60 · Oct 5, 2009

Boost leak will usually show an unusually high MAF reading........

Damoegan · Oct 5, 2009

jezzag60 said:
Boost leak will usually show an unusually high MAF reading........

Never seen a boost leak cause highe MAF readings before!

Big_daddy · Oct 5, 2009

jezzag60 said:
What do you want an opinion on......
Looks like the turbo is struggling a touch to make the reqested boost. I'm guessing its only a KO3 though so they do struggle a touch. You could possibly tighted the actuator a smidge just to get a little more out of it.

There is some timing pull there but its not excessive. Sticking v-power in there would help that a bit.

When i baught the car and replaced the maf, it wasnt hitting full boost still. so i tweaked the actuator abit. BTW

The car is being run v-power all the time

This is the log after the maf was replaced without forge tip

Code:

	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'115			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	°	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar
	0.74	2440	51.61	100	9	0.34	2280	102.3	1940	1410
	1.66	2720	59.92	100	10.5	1.14	2560	110.5	1940	1530
	2.46	3000	70.22	100	12	2.06	2880	116.5	1940	1590
	3.25	3320	83.19	100	11.3	2.86	3160	127.1	1900	1690
	4.05	3640	91.92	100	12	3.65	3480	132.3	1860	1750
	4.85	3960	98.47	100	12.8	4.45	3800	130.8	1860	1770
	5.66	4280	107.31	100	13.5	5.25	4120	131.6	1870	1750
	6.46	4560	118.08	100	14.3	6.05	4400	133.8	1840	1760
	7.26	4840	125.81	100	15	6.85	4720	136.1	1850	1740
	8.06	5120	132.33	100	15.8	7.65	4960	136.8	1860	1750
	8.85	5360	136.06	100	12.8	8.46	5240	135.3	1840	1730
	9.65	5560	136.61	100	9.8	9.25	5440	132.3	1830	1710
	10.55	5760	140.64	100	14.3	10.15	5680	130.1	1830	1720
	11.46	5960	143.36	100	14.3	11.06	5880	127.1	1780	1690

Damoegan said:
Inlet temps getting a little high. What cooler you running?

Some timing pull low down, could be caused from starting the power run too low down..

Actual boost not meeting requested, possible boost leak..

MAF is low too..

what maf reading should i be expecting?
Ive replaced the maf as it was maxing out at 129 g/s

Ive checked for boost leak but cant seem to find any.

when i done the logs the out side temp was around 20-21 degress.

Ive done n75 test and it seems to be clickin.

james walker · Oct 15, 2009

maf should read around 165-175 g/s for stage 1 mapped. who mapped it??

definatly not meeting requested boost.. you checked the tip for splits and did you get the turbop end of the tip clamped on tightly?

any fault codes?

Damoegan · Oct 15, 2009

What air filter are youusing?

james walker · Oct 15, 2009

says cai on the top post mate?

Big_daddy · Oct 15, 2009

Damoegan said:
What air filter are youusing?

cai air filter, the one goe down wing.

james walker said:
maf should read around 165-175 g/s for stage 1 mapped. who mapped it??

definatly not meeting requested boost.. you checked the tip for splits and did you get the turbop end of the tip clamped on tightly?

any fault codes?

its a amd stage1 map.

james walker · Oct 15, 2009

who fitted the forge tip?

Big_daddy · Oct 15, 2009

james walker said:
who fitted the forge tip?

Me

Big_daddy · Oct 15, 2009

Ive tried different n75 still the same,

james walker · Oct 15, 2009

ha ha... have you got underneath and checked the fixing onto the turbo hasnt slipped... needs to be flush there.

have you logged with the tip on?

what dv you running?

Big_daddy · Oct 15, 2009

james walker said:
ha ha... have you got underneath and checked the fixing onto the turbo hasnt slipped... needs to be flush there.

have you logged with the tip on?

what dv you running?

Yes everything is bang on tight. according to the logs i got about 3 g/s by fitting the tip. :think:

Forge 007p (brand new spanker).

Damoegan · Oct 15, 2009

Big_daddy said:
cai air filter, the one goe down wing.

Bin it, meant to be restrictive above 200bhp.....

You still got the standard airbox? If so stick it back on and re log MAF..

james walker · Oct 15, 2009

which spring.. green? are the logs with the brand new forge dv or oem valve

yeah tip will increase airflow.

maf levels still low for stage 1 map with forge tip.

was it a oem bosch maf you used?

Big_daddy · Oct 15, 2009

Damoegan said:
Bin it, meant to be restrictive above 200bhp.....

You still got the standard airbox? If so stick it back on and re log MAF..

lol
Yeh some where. lol it feels way better with filter than the box.

james walker · Oct 15, 2009

probably sounds better, makes it seem faster.

im running open cone k&n and hit maf levels though. no experience with the cai.

Damoegan · Oct 15, 2009

Forge TIP wont increase airflow, just smooth it out.

Get a open cone filter, the bigger the better

Logs 2nd opinion Needed

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cooling is the key people

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cooling is the key people

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