very strange water loss probs NOW WITH PRICES advice peeps

[LEE69]

would i have to remove cambelt or just slacken it off abit ?? is there a guide on doing it ??

You have to wait for someone that's done it mate to reply.

 

[meltonlad]

ive just removed the thermostat and felt the water pump and yep its in bits..... and very lose..... so i will start with a new pump.... and thermostat and temp sender unit.

 

[traumapat]

Very strange for the pump and temp sender to fail together. have you felt like the coolant pipe with the sender in to check the heats getting all the way round?

Almost sounds like an obstruction.

Hope youve caught it.

 

[meltonlad]

all pipes where hot. temp gauge was reading 90 and also temp on climate control number 51 was on 90. i dont understand why both saying 90 when the water was at boiling point.....

 

[LEE69]

Was a weird one.

 

[meltonlad]

im amazed that ive had this prob for 3 weeks driven over 600 miles and the engine still runs like i treat. but i will get it pressure tested before i get the pump done just to see if its done the head in....

 

[meltonlad]

strange water loss PART 2

right after being recovered on saturday i have found that my water pump is fooked. so today i rang SEAT in huddersfield and they gave my prices like this.... for cambelt change only £181.44 and water pump change only £192.47 or for both at same time £373.05 !!!! how the hell can they charge £192.42 extra for doing the water pump ??? after all they have to remove the cambelt to do it. but also if the head has gone then as above plus £25 pressure test plus cost of doing head grand total £972 im not sure what to do as i love the car but thats alot of money to spend of the head has gone i also rang a local garage and they said £850+vat so no cheaper.... it a 2000 model but i love it !!!!!! what would you do ???

 

[Willie]

You've got to think
What will you get for the Leon with a wrecked engine?
What would you buy after that?
How much will it cost?
Compared to a £950 bill

 

[R@B]

right after being recovered on saturday i have found that my water pump is fooked. so today i rang SEAT in huddersfield and they gave my prices like this.... for cambelt change only £181.44 and water pump change only £192.47 or for both at same time £373.05 !!!! how the hell can they charge £192.42 extra for doing the water pump ??? after all they have to remove the cambelt to do it. but also if the head has gone then as above plus £25 pressure test plus cost of doing head grand total £972 im not sure what to do as i love the car but thats alot of money to spend of the head has gone i also rang a local garage and they said £850+vat so no cheaper.... it a 2000 model but i love it !!!!!! what would you do ???

I would consider trading it into a dealer and try and get a newer cupra(mk1) or cupra r. Why not price the water pump and then ask the dealer if you had to buy the timing belt kit yourself if they would fit that instead of the old belt and also ask if there would be a charge for it. I got my water pump replaced last month under warranty and asked the dealer this and they told me that would be fine as they already had the car stripped down there would be no extra charge. All i had to pay was £85 for the timing belt kit. It wasn't a seat dealer that done the repair though, i had to get the repair done from the dealer i bought the car from.
Why don't you pay the £25 to get the car pressure tested first then make your decission from there. If all is fine you could do what you had planned to do with the warranty thing.

 

[LEE69]

I'd say the head was fine, you never experienced over heating.

My 2p.

 

[meltonlad]

thats what im thinking but where is all the water going plus when dealer asked if i had bubbles in the expansion bottle i said yes but only very very few... also ive just been out to it topped up the water ran engine and there is no water getting to where the temp sensor is pipes are dry !!!!!!!!

 

[R@B]

For £25 it would be worth getting pressure tested just to make sure.

 

[LEE69]

If the pump is broken up maybe it is blocking the waterways?

If the pump is bust, some have a leak away hole to let it escape, maybe it is comming out of there?

 

[meltonlad]

the only place i can think it has gone is when it has boiled over its gone through the overflow pipe on the expansion bottle... is there a bleed valve on any of the pipes ??

 

[LEE69]

Could possibly, did it look like fresh water was thee over/around the bottle?

 

[meltonlad]

it was mostly steam !!!!!! must have been very very hot but like i said both temps was reading 90

 

[LEE69]

Hell of a lot of water though.

 

[Jonwm]

If its any use, when I was pricing my waterpump etc, I was told you won't know if your pump packs up until you get the steam etc as the water won't pass the temp sender when they go.

No expert myself but might explain why it still says 90?

When the pump failed on my wiesel Saab a few months ago, the temp guage went off the scale and water was pouring from the waterpump, still drove it 30 miles home as it went after midnight on a motorway. (and it was a company car) on my way back form jolly bobs.

Jon

 

[meltonlad]

just got the car back today new water pump and cambelt kit. water pump had broken into two parts and come off pump. i used andy's motor repairs in bradford and i must say that its got to be the best garage ive ever used...... total cost of job was £241.09 so im well happy now ive got me car back... but i will still keep an eye on the water level for the next few days just in case.... thanks for all the help peeps

 

[LEE69]

Will take a while for you to get the trust back in the car mate