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Just watch that the rear spigot isn't longer than 15mm. Means you either fit less than 10mm spacer with less wheel spigot contact - if there will be any (which I er wouldn't really want to do) or fit 20mm hubcentric spacers (preferably ones that bolt to the hub)
hubcentric spacers use longer wheel bolts, not bolt onto the hub then the spacer...
you want hubcentric with the spigot machined into the spacer and longer wheel bolts to go through the spacer into the hub
the ones that bolt to the hub then into the spacer are placing all the wheel weight on the spacer which in turn puts extra strain on the bolts into the hub
you want hubcentric with the spigot machined into the spacer and longer wheel bolts to go through the spacer into the hub
the ones that bolt to the hub then into the spacer are placing all the wheel weight on the spacer which in turn puts extra strain on the bolts into the hub
Hubcentric only means the wheel/spacer is centrally located by the spigot. The type of hubcentric spacers that bolt to the hub to do not put more load on the bolts into the hub as they are machined to fit tightly over the hub's original spigot. The wheel then centre's over the spacers spigot. Therfore the bolts provide only clamping force (as they are designed to) and are not in sheer as the weight is carried by the spigot as originally intended. That's why H&R spacers are so pricey - they are made to bolt to the hub.
I've got a mate who runs his own chain of garages and his daily driver has two 30mm hubcentric spacers attached to each rear hub of his xsara vts (with the wide arches) with no issues. He's obviously adjusted his supsension components to put up with the extra leverage as a result of the spacers but that's a whole different issue. And a number of porsches come with ridiculous hub spacers on the rear as oem.
I've got H&R hubcentrics, they don't bolt on to the hub, they just need longer bolts than standard. Mine are 20mm on the back and 15mm up front (due to Brembo clearance issues)! The spigot is in the spacer and I've been running them for a while with no issues at all. I love 'em.
H&R also do a 20mm that bolts to the hub. I know as I have them. In fact any spacer from H&R over 20mm comes only in the bolt to the hub format. The thinner spacers don't bolt to the hub due to phyical limitations. Trying to machine a very thin spacer leaving enough for the bolt to grip to, and then finding bolts that are shallow headed enough to fit within the spacers body for a spacer less than 20mm is pretty imposiible. Plus there's then not mush spacer for the wheel bolts to grab onto.
I have had spacers that don't bolt to the hub but you then find yourself trying to line up the holes in the wheel, the spacer and the hub, which isn't much fun in the dark on the M8. hence I moved to the ones that bolt on. In effect it becomes part of the hub.
My original point again though is check that rear spigot will still allow you to centralise the wheel if you go for say a 10mm spacer.
I have had spacers that don't bolt to the hub but you then find yourself trying to line up the holes in the wheel, the spacer and the hub, which isn't much fun in the dark on the M8. hence I moved to the ones that bolt on. In effect it becomes part of the hub.
My original point again though is check that rear spigot will still allow you to centralise the wheel if you go for say a 10mm spacer.
Excellent. Just spotted these earlier. Would like to go 10 or 12mm at the front to cure inner arch rubbing and give the coilover a bit more room, and 15mm at the back. But they say they will make sizes up, fingers crossed for the 12s
Sorry to hijack this thread, but i am getting 4mm spacers for the front, i have BSS 235/35/19 enroute and i just want to clear the brembo's, would i get away with using the OEM wheel bolts or should i get longer ones?
4mm is nothing mate, you should be okay.
the thread width on the leon is sized so that you need 6 full turns for it to be safe (meaning it goes in further than the width of the bolt). So as long as you get 6 full turns you'll be fine.
the thread width on the leon is sized so that you need 6 full turns for it to be safe (meaning it goes in further than the width of the bolt). So as long as you get 6 full turns you'll be fine.
Hey bud when say 20mm on rear you meaning each side or in total?? If 2omm each side just wabdering if you had them on for an MOT yet and if so did it pass ok??
Had 20mm's on the rear on mine, had to remove due to rubbing when laden as still on standard suspension, but was constantly told would be a failure as they protrude the arch slighty??
I've recently bought a set of 10mm front, 15mm rear from these guys. ESP Engineering I think they are called. I was really impressed with the quality and the guy down there is helpful and they come with extended bolts which is a bonus.
Makes the LC handle a little better and the stance looks spot on.
Dont bother going through the ebay auction though, just ring em and they'll sort you a set of four for £90 plus free postage
Ask for Liam 01892 613292
Oh, and for extended lockers give bill a ring (badger 5)
Ditto!
I got them for £85 quid through ebay with best offers. But the postage for me was £25 quid as they had to be couriered......bloody island living
Still £110 for two sets still compares very well with all the "big" makes. And was also impressed with the quality and fit.
I got them for £85 quid through ebay with best offers. But the postage for me was £25 quid as they had to be couriered......bloody island living
Still £110 for two sets still compares very well with all the "big" makes. And was also impressed with the quality and fit.
i am currently bidding on a set of 20mm ones for the rear, is the difference that noticable to the handling?? obviously it will make it look a lot better
supposed to be, i only trial fitted them tbh. went another way with the handling. i.e quaife instead.
I got these ones the other day for £45 including p+p using the make an offer.
They fit perfectly and i haven't had it rubbing yet, got to get some people in the back to see if it does.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10mm-Alloy-Hu...s_SM?hash=item3ef7ea45e8&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
They fit perfectly and i haven't had it rubbing yet, got to get some people in the back to see if it does.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10mm-Alloy-Hu...s_SM?hash=item3ef7ea45e8&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Just ordered some 15mm and 5mm for £60 from these guys! Bargain! Will post pics up before and after when I've put them on.
Sup Wooks, Yeah it's 20mm each side, 40 total and yes I passed my MOT
They do rub with people in the back (so no fat chicks)
I was thinking about going for 215s on the back for my next tyres (I'm not a fan of stretch but it would be just enough to make a difference)
I have the H&R 10mm on the rear and am realy happy with them, i have a spare set of the same if anyones interested.
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