Skorchio

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Jan 23, 2007
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Logs ran to compair, im going to do some more tomorrow as i had a few problems.. then the batt went..

Setting 9-9

Pulled 270bhp and 295 ft.lb last dyno - I have a lamba fault so i dont know if this effects power?

Code:
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020				Group C:
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	
	TIME					TIME					TIME
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF	STAMP
											
											
	1.81	3360	98.47	99.6	13.5	2.21	0	3	0	3	
	2.61	4440	184.03	100	9	3.02	0	3	0	3	
	3.42	5520	201.03	100	11.3	3.82	0	1.5	0	0.8	
	4.22	6240	203.94	100	11.3	4.62	0	0	0	0	
											
	5.13	4600	172.11	98	18.8	5.53	0	0	0	0	2nd
	5.93	5200	198.39	100	10.5	6.33	0	0	0	0	
	6.73	5640	204.92	100	12.8	7.13	0	0	0	0	
	7.53	6080	206.92	100	13.5	7.95	0	0	0	0	
	8.35	6280	0	6.3	1.5	8.75	0	0	0	3	
											
	9.15	5160	198.08	97.6	12	9.66	0	0	0	3	3rd
	10.16	5480	203.28	100	12.8	10.56	0	0	3	3	
	11.07	5800	204.61	100	9.8	11.47	0	0	3	2.3	
	11.87	6040	206.58	100	14.3	12.37	0	0	2.3	2.3	
	12.77	6240	211.25	100	12	13.18	0	0	0	0	
											
	13.58	5000	111.25	72.5	28.5	13.98	0	0	0	3	4th
	14.38	5240	201.06	100	8.3	14.78	3	3	0	3	
	15.18	5360	203.22	100	11.3	15.6	3	3	0	3	
	16.09	5520	205.25	99.6	12	16.49	2.3	2.3	0	1.5	
	16.89	5640	205.58	100	8.3	17.29	0.8	0.8	3	0.8	
	17.71	5720	206.25	100	12	18.2	0.8	0.8	3	0.8	
											
											
	197.65	2280	50.69	95.7	20.3	197.13	0	0	0	0	3rd long
	198.45	2600	77.75	100	16.5	198.05	0	0	0	0	
	199.26	3080	144.42	99.6	3	198.85	0	0	0	0	
	200.16	3760	154.17	100	10.5	199.74	0	0	0	0	
	201.07	4440	174.72	100	12	200.67	0	0	0	0	
	201.87	4960	191.06	100	12	201.47	0	0	0	0	
	202.78	5480	207.92	100	12	202.27	0	0	0	0	
	203.58	5920	207.92	100	12.8	203.18	0	0	0	0	
	204.49	6280	134.22	30.2	3	204.08	0	0	0	0	
											
	205.39	5040	193.64	97.3	13.5	204.89	0	0	0	0	4th
	206.19	5320	205.42	100	12	205.79	0	0	0	0	
	207.1	5640	208.72	100	12.8	206.6	0	0	0	3	
	207.9	5880	208.89	100	12.8	207.5	0	0	0	3	
	208.72	6080	211.25	99.6	13.5	208.3	0	0	0	2.3

At lease i know im still safe running the setting of 9-9 the ambiant was 7c.

Still feels slow tho :( Just used to it i guess.

EDIT

New maf 6 weeks ago.
 
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Feb 27, 2007
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I think tweaking will change the requested.

Clicky Interesting background read on ME-Motronic (But our mafs aren't hot-wire ;) )

thanks for the reading... ill have to re-read it later as my mrs has Desperate Housewives on at a disturbing level :blink:

i looked back over the logs where i had taken fuel out and one where i had added some. both show fueling at 0.86.... does yours change Dave? is it my unisettings?
 
Feb 27, 2007
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Logs look good Nick... Is his timing not as advanced as mine dave even though hes on 9-9?

Edit: change anything you want on my thread Dave... im easy :)

2nd EDIT: Nick what is your fault code?
 
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Skorchio

600 Miles to a tank :)
Jan 23, 2007
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Nr Milton Keynes
No Dave, its very strange. its running very well.. i have it with me today and actually had a Porsche driver acknowledge it for once :)

this is B7 T8 with a 25% mix



Code:
Sunday	8	March	2009	20:20:54						
1ML 906 032 A  		1.8l R4/5VT      03 0001								
										
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
	TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
	66.39	2200	20.78	14.1	33.8	65.99	0	0	0	0
	67.19	2320	23.61	16.1	33	66.77	0	0	0	0
	67.99	2520	26.56	16.9	33	67.59	0	0	0	0
	68.8	2680	29.17	17.3	33.8	68.4	0	0	0	0
	69.6	2880	42.94	24.7	32.3	69.2	0	0	0	0
	70.4	3200	68.14	93.3	30	70	0	0	0	0
	71.22	3720	131.72	100	8.3	70.8	3	0	0	0
	72.02	4320	144.17	100	9	71.62	3	3	3	0
	72.82	4920	165.72	100	10.5	72.42	3	3	3	0
	73.63	5400	178.31	100	9.8	73.22	2.3	5.3	2.3	0
	74.43	5800	176.86	100	12	74.03	2.3	5.3	2.3	0
	75.25	6200	184.83	100	15	74.83	2.3	4.5	2.3	0
	76.05	6560	185	100	15	75.63	1.5	4.5	1.5	0
	76.85	6200	0	7.5	33.8	76.45	1.5	4.5	1.5	0
	77.65	5440	180.61	100	12	77.25	0	0	0	0
	78.45	5720	184.56	100	7.5	78.05	0	3	3	0
	79.27	5920	186.33	100	15	78.85	0	3	3	0
	80.07	6160	185.75	100	13.5	79.67	0	2.3	2.3	0
	80.87	6360	183.33	100	15.8	80.47	0	1.5	1.5	0
	81.68	6520	187.86	100	17.3	81.27	0	1.5	1.5	0
	82.48	6240	0	7.1	9	82.08	0	1.5	0.8	0
	83.3	5440	177.78	99.6	15.8	82.88	0	0	0	0
	84.1	5560	176.86	100	13.5	83.68	0	3	3	0
	84.9	5680	177.14	100	10.5	84.5	0	3	3	0
	85.7	5840	177.11	100	12.8	85.3	0	2.3	2.3	0
	86.5	5920	178.31	99.6	17.3	86.1	0	2.3	1.5	0
	87.31	6040	183.03	100	16.5	86.9	0	2.3	1.5	0

Code:
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020				Group C:
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	
	TIME					TIME					TIME
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF	STAMP
											
											
	1.81	3360	98.47	99.6	13.5	2.21	0	3	0	3	
	2.61	4440	184.03	100	9	3.02	0	3	0	3	
	3.42	5520	201.03	100	11.3	3.82	0	1.5	0	0.8	
	4.22	6240	203.94	100	11.3	4.62	0	0	0	0	
											
	5.13	4600	172.11	98	18.8	5.53	0	0	0	0	2nd
	5.93	5200	198.39	100	10.5	6.33	0	0	0	0	
	6.73	5640	204.92	100	12.8	7.13	0	0	0	0	
	7.53	6080	206.92	100	13.5	7.95	0	0	0	0	
	8.35	6280	0	6.3	1.5	8.75	0	0	0	3	
											
	9.15	5160	198.08	97.6	12	9.66	0	0	0	3	3rd
	10.16	5480	203.28	100	12.8	10.56	0	0	3	3	
	11.07	5800	204.61	100	9.8	11.47	0	0	3	2.3	
	11.87	6040	206.58	100	14.3	12.37	0	0	2.3	2.3	
	12.77	6240	211.25	100	12	13.18	0	0	0	0	
											
	13.58	5000	111.25	72.5	28.5	13.98	0	0	0	3	4th
	14.38	5240	201.06	100	8.3	14.78	3	3	0	3	
	15.18	5360	203.22	100	11.3	15.6	3	3	0	3	
	16.09	5520	205.25	99.6	12	16.49	2.3	2.3	0	1.5	
	16.89	5640	205.58	100	8.3	17.29	0.8	0.8	3	0.8	
	17.71	5720	206.25	100	12	18.2	0.8	0.8	3	0.8	
											
											
	197.65	2280	50.69	95.7	20.3	197.13	0	0	0	0	3rd long
	198.45	2600	77.75	100	16.5	198.05	0	0	0	0	
	199.26	3080	144.42	99.6	3	198.85	0	0	0	0	
	200.16	3760	154.17	100	10.5	199.74	0	0	0	0	
	201.07	4440	174.72	100	12	200.67	0	0	0	0	
	201.87	4960	191.06	100	12	201.47	0	0	0	0	
	202.78	5480	207.92	100	12	202.27	0	0	0	0	
	203.58	5920	207.92	100	12.8	203.18	0	0	0	0	
	204.49	6280	134.22	30.2	3	204.08	0	0	0	0	
											
	205.39	5040	193.64	97.3	13.5	204.89	0	0	0	0	4th
	206.19	5320	205.42	100	12	205.79	0	0	0	0	
	207.1	5640	208.72	100	12.8	206.6	0	0	0	3	
	207.9	5880	208.89	100	12.8	207.5	0	0	0	3	
	208.72	6080	211.25	99.6	13.5	208.3	0	0	0	2.3
 

Skorchio

600 Miles to a tank :)
Jan 23, 2007
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Nr Milton Keynes
My BTC is about 13/14 urs it up by the 17's at high RPM but ur running 7 timing


Edit

So is a power run a long pull from low rmp to read line?:confused:
 

Skorchio

600 Miles to a tank :)
Jan 23, 2007
1,570
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Nr Milton Keynes
How would i do that? With uni settings? But the weather is only going to get warmer...

its just feels slow tho :( I wish it felt like after i got it mapped again... Might change my settings to 4-4 for a few weeks...
 
Feb 27, 2007
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How would i do that? With uni settings? But the weather is only going to get warmer...

its just feels slow tho :( I wish it felt like after i got it mapped again... Might change my settings to 4-4 for a few weeks...

its up to you Nick, i dont mind seeing 4/5s... John has said he would only go to 3's though so you takes your choice
 

Skorchio

600 Miles to a tank :)
Jan 23, 2007
1,570
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Nr Milton Keynes
So are you limited with what you can do by CF's? How can you reduce CF's? Obviously when you get a biger turbo you can run more power with less CFs... So how can i up my timing and reduce my CF's? Is that what WMI is all about? My head starting to spin with all this information thats been flying arround!!
 
Feb 27, 2007
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i have a rough idea Nick but theres not point in me pretending i can answer this better than Dave or John.

you can basically reduce Knock by having lower intake temps, water does this and densifies the charge. Meth also reduces charge temps and also improves fuel quailty (which also reduces knock) by raising the octane level. i shouldnt forget lower EGTs too... i think that is basics of it, Dave and John can correct me where im wrong
 
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Skorchio

600 Miles to a tank :)
Jan 23, 2007
1,570
1
Nr Milton Keynes
Ok.. can you explain knock please? I should google it but im lazy :)

Also mate i really think you need to get a cold side kit.. Just fills that gap in the bay.. Also you need to decide what ur doing about ur inlet and charger.. im about a week sat if you wana do them....
 
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