Ibiza ko3s Poor Performance

ChrisGTL

'Awesome' LCR225
Nov 17, 2007
2,459
2
Huddersfield
Is 55.67 to 63.48 the power run in 115?

If so, the boost is dire!!!!

:) It really helps if just power runs figures are posted with the rest removed, helps us see the wood from the trees.

Yes from 55.67 to 63.48 Dave, I've tried editing the logs so that the power run is included only.

I think another driver pulled out in front of us so Vicki backed off, this is why the RPM's started going up from 2.5k and went back down before reaching 5.5k
 

ibizacupra

Jack-RIP my little Friend
Jul 25, 2001
31,333
19
glos.uk
i maybe have missed it, but its not requesting much boost at all...

coolant temp sensor will throw off the map. fix that.
 

ChrisGTL

'Awesome' LCR225
Nov 17, 2007
2,459
2
Huddersfield
i maybe have missed it, but its not requesting much boost at all...

coolant temp sensor will throw off the map. fix that.

Cheers Bill.

The coolant sensor has been fixed, Vicki replaced it herself with the revised green top sensor, I forgot to clear the original fault.

A couple more questions for you guys:-

1) She has replaced the N75 with a N75J (is this recommended? and does the N75J fit on backwards in comparrison with a N75?)

2) Could the N75J be the root cause of no boost and poor MAF readings?

3) I'm going to meet up with her again sometime, do you recommend logging any particular blocks?

Cheers you lovely people!!
 

ibizacupra

Jack-RIP my little Friend
Jul 25, 2001
31,333
19
glos.uk
J is plumbed different yes to stock.. usually spikes and can upset "deviation" if not mapped for it
 

20vtwy

Active Member
Sep 29, 2007
66
0
Halifax
Right, cleaned air filter and took off n75j valve and put standard back on. Took n/s/f wheel off and found the abs cable had been rubbing and rubbed to the wire so i taped it up, i also cleaned the sensor. Only went a mile or so to test but the abs light went off, the wire really needs replacing is this a big job, will i be able to do it???? Couldn't really test the boost as the engine was cold but will let you know tomorrow.

Thanks for your help so far guys, big thanks to Chris GTL and DPJ.

Vicki:)
 
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20vtwy

Active Member
Sep 29, 2007
66
0
Halifax
J is plumbed different yes to stock.. usually spikes and can upset "deviation" if not mapped for it

The car was custom mapped with the N75j valve on, i have seen on SCN that lots of people have had problems with it. If it is that that was 50 quid well spent!!!
 

20vtwy

Active Member
Sep 29, 2007
66
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Halifax
Hi guys, aftrer spending hours cleaning sensors, checking for bust pipes, cleaning the air filter and replacing the N75 valve to standard one, I still have the same boosting issues with no improvement at all. Do you think that i should speak to Chip Wizards about the remap??

After cleaning abs sensors and taping the wires all seems sorted, for now!
 

Damoegan

Sir Bob,a geordy legend..
Oct 15, 2007
8,993
3
Newcastle
I would speak to Chip Wizards, yes.

Like Bill said, it dont look like its requesting much boost at all and like DPJ said, MAF readings a poor (should be closer to 170g/s).
 

ChrisGTL

'Awesome' LCR225
Nov 17, 2007
2,459
2
Huddersfield
Hi guys, aftrer spending hours cleaning sensors, checking for bust pipes, cleaning the air filter and replacing the N75 valve to standard one, I still have the same boosting issues with no improvement at all. Do you think that i should speak to Chip Wizards about the remap??

Are you sure the N75 is on the right way round? Did chip wizards fit the N75J on the right way round?

Can you take a pic so people on here can double check for you? Sounds like it could be a mapping problem though.

I wonder if Revo would be able to install a trial map for you to see if the problem is resolved? Anyone?
 

20vtwy

Active Member
Sep 29, 2007
66
0
Halifax
Just a quick update for you on my ibiza.

Eventually got hold of chipwizard about the map, he cant fit it in to have a look at it till 28th april.

Since then the car has started smelling from the exhaust really bad and giving out a big puff of smoke every now and then as if its getting a build up of crap in the exhaust. Hally from down the road has put it on his VAG.com and the lamba sensors were both giving fault codes, again! Cleared them fault codes, went for a spin and the codes were back. I have bought 2 new ones from VW today and will be changing them this weekend. I am now a little concerned that this might be the route to all the problems, but will know come Sunday. :(
 

jamiebennett81

Guest
not heard of that before.....

how or what would cause both lambda sensors to fail? Not map related I imagine if it was fine when the car was originally mapped
 

DPJ

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Dec 13, 2004
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www.seatcupra.net
Sensor failures

Normally, the lifetime of an unheated sensor is about 30,000 to 50,000 miles (50,000 to 80,000 km). Heated sensor lifetime is typically 100,000 miles (160,000 km). Failure of an unheated sensor is usually caused by the buildup of soot on the ceramic element, which lengthens its response time and may cause total loss of ability to sense oxygen. For heated sensors, normal deposits are burned off during operation and failure occurs due to catalyst depletion, similar to the reason a battery stops producing current. The probe then tends to report lean mixture, the ECU enriches the mixture, the exhaust gets rich with carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons, and the mileage worsens.

Leaded gasoline contaminates the oxygen sensors and catalytic converters. Most oxygen sensors are rated for some service life in the presence of leaded gasoline but sensor life will be shortened to as little as 15,000 miles depending on the lead concentration. Lead-damaged sensors typically have their tips discolored light rusty.

Another common cause of premature failure of lambda probes is contamination of fuel with silicones (used in some sealings and greases) or silicates (used as corrosion inhibitors in some antifreezes). In this case, the deposits on the sensor are colored between shiny white and grainy light gray.

Leaks of oil into the engine may cover the probe tip with an oily black deposit, with associated loss of response.

An overly rich mixture causes buildup of black powdery deposit on the probe. This may be caused by failure of the probe itself, or by a problem elsewhere in the fuel rationing system.

Symptoms of a failing oxygen sensor includes:

* Increased tailpipe emissions
* Increased fuel consumption
* Hesitation on acceleration
* Stalling
* Rough idling

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Reuvers

I is a Dutch man!
Oct 30, 2007
3,374
0
Netherlands
were there no other codes?
was it running rough at idle?
cause it seem to me like buying 2 new lambda sensors would set you back BIG time.

not sure if its them tbh...
 

jamiebennett81

Guest
a bible of knowledge as ever Dave, thanks :)

standard component failure then
 
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