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Choosing ARB size.

chriz1

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Dec 13, 2005
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whats the cheapest place to get them from then?how much for a set?
I take it the suspension wouldnt get any lower?
 

Willie

LCR Track car
Aug 6, 2004
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Suspension wouldn't get any lower but the lateral forces are being transferred into them more, so making them work harder as the car will flex less
 

dainott2105

mk1 Cupra and mk2 FR TDI
Nov 4, 2006
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Right folks just read this thread and some very good info fair play. Im currently running Koni FSD's and Eibach springs and happy with the comfort levels and pretty happy with the handling but ARB's are next now. Think i am going to go for Eibach ones (price is nicer and have a miltek exhaust so no banging) and 25/25mm (i think:blink:), but my question is, mine is a LC but with the Koni's i HAVE the ARB carrier on the strut so do i buy the LCR ones as heard that the standard LC doesnt have the mounting on the strut so would be different? Not sure if i have this completely wrong so any help would be great, cheers.

PS whats the best price kit out there cos im currently on a tight budget. Sure ive seen the Eibach on for £250 complete!!
 

Ruddmeister

Everything in Moderation
Jun 23, 2003
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J.C said:
Phoned Awesome recently to ask about Fsd's with Eibach springs because like a lot of you guys, i wanted to improve the ride and hadling of my lcr but didn't want coilovers. Whilst on the phone i had a weak moment and having previously read Ruddmeister's sticky , along with what others have said, i decided to add a pair of neuspeed antiroll bars to the order.

Sound advice that ;):)

Sounds good mate! Same for me, my car is for every day use and im not too much of a mad driver but just want it to handle a bit better. I was thinking 25 front and 28 rear mainly coz that seems to be what most people go for?? but now after reading you little report im thinking your choice sounds about right for me? Oh my god, im all confused again now. You are spot on when you say about the worry of getting the wrong set up as this is not a cheap upgrade. I would like to have it all done in the next month or 2 so still got a bit of time to think. From what you are saying how your car is now i do think it sound pretty much what im looking for. Thanks for the reply mate, it has been a help, i think?:confused: :)

I think the comfort is mainly determined by the shocks and spring so take the ARB's out of the equation first.

Decide on a budget and if comfort is a priority but with budget considerations the Koni FSD setup sound good for a mix of comfort and lowering etc, if money isn't so much of an issue the Bilstein PSS coilovers were excellent in terms of damping / comfort too. If comfort is less of a consideration or you want more track focus start looking at other coilovers with adjustability (rebound etc etc)

My advice on ARB's is this when you are upgrading the ARB (assuming it's on an LCR) the front is 19mm as standard so 22mm is only a small gain and 25mm makes more sense to me. That big hole in the front of the car (where the engine sits ;) ) does a lot of flexing and I believe 25mm works well. I would recommend a strut brace too. There was an argument the car would understeer with a big front ARB.....I never found this even in the wet.

Rear ARB - TBH I don't think it matters that much 25mm or 28mm (there was a 32mm availabe at one point which would be a bit OTT) maybe personal taste but I dont think you'll **** things up choosing either.

I know it's a lot of money so if you are in doubt start with a strut brace and some ARB's first and do it in stages
 

Cupra TDI 150

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Sep 25, 2007
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Would a Tdi affect the choice of size? I want the precise steering I miss from my Mk1 Focus so might have to max out the credit card!
 

Willie

LCR Track car
Aug 6, 2004
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Heavier front end, more weight over the wheels. You'll have a larger tendacy to roll so perhaps a stiffer bar needed...perhaps.
 

Ruddmeister

Everything in Moderation
Jun 23, 2003
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Would a Tdi affect the choice of size? I want the precise steering I miss from my Mk1 Focus so might have to max out the credit card!

Mmmm, the Leon always fealt heavier than the focus which was light and precise and the initial turn in was razor shap on my Mk1 Focus.

You can get the leon to have better turn in from OEM and way, way more grip than the Focus

I'd say add some ARB's (front and rear) and a front strut brace (top and bottom if you can) would be a good start
 

Cupra TDI 150

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Sep 25, 2007
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Thanx Ruddmeister, just deciding which to go for now, who did u get to fit yours? As i'm only done the road in Bridgwater, have you ever used TSR since they have changed hands and re-opened?
 

Cupra TDI 150

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Sep 25, 2007
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Speedsix have you had anything else done by them was thinking about getting CC 2 done there at some point in the future when i have the spare cash, but need enough cause knowing my luck the clutch will go straight after
 

speedsix

Leon Cupra R 225
Oct 30, 2004
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No I haven't, was a bit put off the first time I went to them for a remap which they screwed up (before the change of ownership)
 

Ruddmeister

Everything in Moderation
Jun 23, 2003
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Thanx Ruddmeister, just deciding which to go for now, who did u get to fit yours? As i'm only done the road in Bridgwater, have you ever used TSR since they have changed hands and re-opened?

No not since the change of hands, used to go in a lot under previous ownership as I worked nearby (at the time) they fitted my front ARB only.

I know Syphon (admin) used performance Driven on his wife's old Ibiza (Taunton) said they were good....... I've no direct experience of them

The old TSR was great on the classic stuff and mechanicals but Remaps, ECU's etc they were plain dangerous with some of there advice
 

dainott2105

mk1 Cupra and mk2 FR TDI
Nov 4, 2006
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OK so the carrier is on the strut but how is the ARB on the car at the moment fitted? Is it into that carrier on the strut or OEM setup

H&R and Eibach will be the best value kits

sorry for the late reply mate trying to do 2 cars and a house at the mo and im bloody knackered and my memory has gone awful. Its still on the OEM setup mate, but not completely happy with the handling so want to get it sorted with the ARB's, but wondering how i go about it and which kit to get (LCR?). Im thinking Eibach only because i have the springs at the mo and the price is much better than neuspeed!!
 
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lc_allan

Northern Monkey
Sep 15, 2006
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I forget but the Eibach and Neuspeed both fit better with an aftermarket exhaust on the LCR or is a bit of tampering needed on both sets?.
 

Avant4me

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Oct 13, 2005
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Bristol
ARB Pricing

Any forum sponsors care to quote a price for a pair of ARBs for LC 25mm both? Just looking at where to get them from??
 
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