Mk5 Ibiza REVEALED - This is the real one!

[G!zmond0]

Scarey is good m0rk.

 

[Leonidas]

We'll have to wait tell next year i'd say to find out.
If there's a 1.4tsi 125bhp i'll probably get it. I'm not to sure about downsizeing though. I'll reserve judement until see it up close and i test drive it.

 

[G!zmond0]

Briano enough with the cum on a wet sand.save for the realm thing man

 

[Poverty]

Оoooooohhhhhhh yeaaaaaahhh 2.0 lt TDI -> 204 PS Hope this is base engine

No chance

1.9 tdi is ancient history and anything under 200bhp for the diesel cupra will be a joke.

No because VAG do update their engines.Otherwise going by your theory the 2.0TFSI and 1.8TFSI engines are ancient also.

Like we've all said before it's doubtful that the ibiza will see a 200bhp diesel. Petrol with out a doubt but it's much more likely to be the 2litre 170 tdi than it is to be that one.

agree 100% there.

The diesel biza is much sharper than the petrol one.I think seat people know that.I seriously doubt that they will keep the old engine

If you say so, but then you're not exactly biased are you.

In its class there is no engine in the world that is better than the 2.0TFSI. Its world engine of the year tag proves that.

D'osnt the new A4 have a 143 bhp 2.0 cr tdi. I can see something like that being in the FR

The new A4 is only out with a limited range of engines at the moment still. there will be loads of diesel and petrol engines to choose from. Think it will start from 90 PS all the way up to 350hp not including RS models.

 

[G!zmond0]

I have mb e 320 cdi and i will leave it to my wife.I couldn't choose betwen MB G 500 and the new biza.I know it sounds odd but that's my case.
If the biza diesel is under 200 bhp too bad mb will get my money.

 

[Poverty]

I have mb e 320 cdi and i will leave it to my wife.I couldn't choose betwen MB G 500 and the new biza.I know it sounds odd but that's my case.
If the biza diesel is under 200 bhp too bad mb will get my money.

Go buy the mercedes then because you will be waiting for no reason, and quite frankly I wouldnt want SEAT to be assosciated with a person like you who thinks anything that is not a cupra is crap.

 

[Leonidas]

I have to agree with poverty on the diesel FR and cupra, (FR 2.0TDi 140bhp - Cupra 2.0TDi 170bhp). That's up on power from the old models.
I'd say the petrol's will make a similar jump, (FR 1.8 TSi 160bhp - Cupra 2.0 TSi 200bhp).
I wonder if the 1.9 is uprated and will it be as clattery as usual.

 

[Skisbp]

I have to agree with poverty on the diesel FR and Cupra, (FR 2.0TDi 140bhp - Cupra 2.0TDi 170bhp). That's up on power from the old models.

I mostly agree yet I'm quite sure the new 1.6CR will slot in somewhere...

I'd say the petrol's will make a similar jump, (FR 1.8 TSI 160bhp - Cupra 2.0 TSI 200bhp).

Don't discount the fact that Seat Sport usually give us a version tuned for more power than the rest of the VAG stablemates...

I wonder if the 1.9 is uprated and will it be as clattery as usual.

Just go ask the boys over on Briskoda! Odd that 90pk model though, didn't see it coming!?!

 

[Skisbp]

New engines....

2.0 lt TDI -> 204 PS
2.0 lt TFSI -> 280 PS
2.5 lt I5 TFSI -> 320 PS/450 Nm

Also for the A1...

1.2 TFSI, 105 PS/175 Nm

Existing engines that stay the same...

1.4 TFSI, 125 PS/200 Nm
1.8 TFSI, 160 PS/250 Nm
2.0 TFSI, 211 PS/350 Nm


I'm starting to wonder if the Cupra Ibiza will get a 2.0TFSI instead of the 1.8TFSI. Its a possibility if the 1.8TFSI is not gonna get upped to 200hp.

Ibiza will probably get all of the engines as listed above barring the 280ps 2.0TFSI and the 2.5 TFSI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_engines

50-90 hp 1.0T
The new fuel-saving engine presented at the Genève car show

configuration
water cooled 998 cm³ inline three
head : aluminum, DOHC, four valves per cylinder, 10.5:1 compression ratio
block
aluminum, four bearings, balancer shaft, 74.9 mm bore × 75.6 mm stroke, 0.99 ratio, 333 cm³ per cylinder
aspiration
Twin-scroll turbocharger or turbocharger with fronted mechanical charger (look 1.4TSI)
fuel
direct fuel injection FSI with 150 bars injection pressure
55 kW (75 hp) at 5000 rpm, 120 N·m at 1950-4000 rpm
50 kW at 4000 to 6000 rpm, 108 Nm at 1500-5000 rpm

68-90 hp 1.2 FSI
configuration
water cooled 1198 cm³ inline three
head
aluminum, DOHC, four valves per cylinder, 12.3:1 compression
block
aluminum, four bearings, balancer shaft, 76.5 mm bore × 86.9 mm stroke, 0.88 ratio, 399 cm³ per cylinder
fuel
FSI direct petrol injection, up to 150 bar high-pressure pump and common rail
aspiration
multi-position tumble flap in the intake port controlling the tumble effect
exhaust
up to 25% cooled exhaust gas recirculation
output
50 kW (68 hp) at 5000 rpm, 115 N·m (80 ft·lbf) at 3250 rpm
65 kW (89 hp) at 6000 rpm, 120 N·m at 3500 rpm
application
VW Polo PQ 25

140-200hp 2.0 TDI
Configuration
inline 4 cylinder 1968 cm³ TDI
Head
4 valves per cylinder, DOHC, compression ratio 18:1
Fuel system
Common-Rail Injection with 8 nozzle output, piezo elements, pressure up to 1850 bar
Aspiration
turbocharged, inter-cooled, water cooled Emission Gas Recirculation
Aspiration (200hp)
twin registered turbochargers with different diameters
Engine management
Bosch EDC X
exhaust
particulate filter
Output
103 kW (140 hp) @ 3750 to 4150 rpm, 320 N·m @ 1750 to 2800 rpm
105 kW (143 hp) @ 4200 rpm, 320 N·m @ 1750 rpm to 2500rpm
125 kW (170 hp) @ 4200 rpm, 350 N·m @ 1750 to 2500 rpm
147 kW (200hp) @ 4400 rpm, 400 Nm @ 2500 to 3000
Applications
VW Tiguan, Audi A4 MY'08

 

[G!zmond0]

I am pretty sure cupra diesel will be 200 hp.Wanna bet?

 

[MarkE]

I am pretty sure cupra diesel will be 200 hp.Wanna bet?

Yes, I want to bet that it won't be.

 

[G!zmond0]

On what?

 

[Nath.]

I have to agree with poverty on the diesel FR and cupra, (FR 2.0TDi 140bhp - Cupra 2.0TDi 170bhp). That's up on power from the old models.
I'd say the petrol's will make a similar jump, (FR 1.8 TSi 160bhp - Cupra 2.0 TSi 200bhp).
I wonder if the 1.9 is uprated and will it be as clattery as usual.

That is exactly what I reckon too

BTW a 200 hp derv cupra, no way, I'll bet you a score it never happens.....................

 

[bobmcgod]

If there are some truely mental people working for seat then the the 200bhp tdi ibiza could happen, and it would be bloody awesome if it did. But It just won't. But i'm quite sure the 170 will happily remap to 200 with out much too much trouble.

EDIT: If it did how glorious would gizmondos i told you so be? But ours is much more likely... unfortunatly.

 

[turkish]

A little of topic, but as we are talking about Cupra/FR models with 2.0 TFSI and TDI units I thought it might be worth mentioning.

I had read recently in Autocar that VW were working on more efficient diesel and Petrol engines to match BMW's award winning efficient dynamics range of engines.

From memory it was a VAG engineer stating that in around 12 months time starting with the 2.0 TFSI and 2.0 TDI range they will be updated with more power, less CO2 emissions and more MPG. It would be a real bitch to have an old style unit with less power, less MPG and more CO2, costing you more in road tax and fuel costs, so anyone thinking of buying one, do as much research as possible before hand.

If they can replicate BMW's technology with making their engines powerful yet so economical (BMW 120D 58.9 MPG 177 BHP) then I for one will probably buy another VAG product with the new engine specs. A 2.0 TDI Twin Turbo lump that could produce over 200 BHP do over 50 MPG and produce below 140 CO2 would be perfect. (actually hold on the BMW 123D does that already) COME ON VAG get a move on.

 

[G!zmond0]

That's what i am talking about

 

[Poverty]

Ibiza Cupra will never get a 200hp diesel. Do you really think audi will allow their vehicles to be shown up like that? Do you think SEAT want the Ibiza Cupra to show up its bigger leon cupra brother? Dont think so.

The only ibiza sized VAG car that has any chance of getting the 200hp TDI is the Audi A1, simple as that, and if it does happen it will most likely wear a Audi S badge.

 

[Skisbp]

Ibiza Cupra will never get a 200hp diesel. Do you really think audi will allow their vehicles to be shown up like that? Do you think SEAT want the Ibiza Cupra to show up its bigger leon cupra brother? Dont think so.

The only ibiza sized VAG car that has any chance of getting the 200hp TDI is the Audi A1, simple as that, and if it does happen it will most likely wear a Audi S badge.

 

[Nath.]

Ibiza Cupra will never get a 200hp diesel. Do you really think audi will allow their vehicles to be shown up like that? Do you think SEAT want the Ibiza Cupra to show up its bigger leon cupra brother? Dont think so.

The only ibiza sized VAG car that has any chance of getting the 200hp TDI is the Audi A1, simple as that, and if it does happen it will most likely wear a Audi S badge.

^^^^what he said

Anyway why do you derv geeks need 200bhp when you have all that "race winning, real world driving" torque ?

 

[diss_50]

^^^^what he said

Anyway why do you derv geeks need 200bhp when you have all that "race winning, real world driving" torque ?

I was waiting for someone to say that and duff the thread up.

Off topic..........