G!zmond0
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I don't see what else the lawsuit could be for.It was just an assumption ,not rubbish
skisbp doesn' t give much to work with
skisbp doesn' t give much to work with
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There was no lawsuit, Honda were rumoured to have voiced an opinion that they felt the R moniker belonged to them. However VW use the R-Line on their top spec models too. So it's never been challenged.
Much like Ford spat their dummy out when Skoda called their early hot Octavia's RS. That was quickly changed to vRS. Because it's believed Ford di actually challenge the usage.
SEAT we believe chose to drop the R line, because the R really didn't make sense as it technically means 'Racing' Yet the Cupra means 'Cup Racing' So what they were saying is that they were calling them Cup Racing Racing. Which is just daft.
SEAT's official line is the R range is a unique identity for those models in their range than have been directly engineered by their in house racing team SEAT Sport. The Ibiza R and Leon R were essentially in-house projects while SEAT took a sabbatical break from competition motorsport.
When they pulled out of Rallying the Ibiza F2 and Cordoba WRC in the early part of the decade. The team then put their skills to engineering an enhanced special edition limited run Ibiza Cupra R. With the success of the Ibiza R, they decided to do another project this was the Leon Cupra R.
The Leon Cupra R had more of a factory involvement, hence the numbers that were produced. They had parts fitted and prepared by the SEAT Sport engineers after the cars were mostly assembled on the production line.
Since then, the focus of SEAT Sport turned back to a full time motorsport project with the Leon Cupra Championship and Spanish SUpercopa series, which in turn led onto European Touring Cars and the Toledo, which then spawned the BTCC project. Which in turn led onto the Leon WTCC/BTCC New Supercopa etc etc the rest is history as they say.
SEAT Sport no longer have the time or staff to focus on a full in-house project for anything factory inspired at the present time. They get involved with the hot versions to help develop the chassis etc but they no longer prepare cars as they once did.
In the future that might change, and the R line may reappear. But don't hold your breath!
Much like Ford spat their dummy out when Skoda called their early hot Octavia's RS. That was quickly changed to vRS. Because it's believed Ford di actually challenge the usage.
SEAT we believe chose to drop the R line, because the R really didn't make sense as it technically means 'Racing' Yet the Cupra means 'Cup Racing' So what they were saying is that they were calling them Cup Racing Racing. Which is just daft.
SEAT's official line is the R range is a unique identity for those models in their range than have been directly engineered by their in house racing team SEAT Sport. The Ibiza R and Leon R were essentially in-house projects while SEAT took a sabbatical break from competition motorsport.
When they pulled out of Rallying the Ibiza F2 and Cordoba WRC in the early part of the decade. The team then put their skills to engineering an enhanced special edition limited run Ibiza Cupra R. With the success of the Ibiza R, they decided to do another project this was the Leon Cupra R.
The Leon Cupra R had more of a factory involvement, hence the numbers that were produced. They had parts fitted and prepared by the SEAT Sport engineers after the cars were mostly assembled on the production line.
Since then, the focus of SEAT Sport turned back to a full time motorsport project with the Leon Cupra Championship and Spanish SUpercopa series, which in turn led onto European Touring Cars and the Toledo, which then spawned the BTCC project. Which in turn led onto the Leon WTCC/BTCC New Supercopa etc etc the rest is history as they say.
SEAT Sport no longer have the time or staff to focus on a full in-house project for anything factory inspired at the present time. They get involved with the hot versions to help develop the chassis etc but they no longer prepare cars as they once did.
In the future that might change, and the R line may reappear. But don't hold your breath!
G!zmond0
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So it was the name then
I was trying to explain that removing the R doesn't mean there wont be such car ever as skisbp said.
bobmcgod the fact you don't unerstand jack s,it of law doesn't give you the right to insult me
I was trying to explain that removing the R doesn't mean there wont be such car ever as skisbp said.
bobmcgod the fact you don't unerstand jack s,it of law doesn't give you the right to insult me
Poverty
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until prices are released it's hard to tell what it's competitors are really.
But certainly things to compare against might be:
Renault Clio, Mitsubishi Colt, Fiat Grande Punto, Ford Fiesta, Polo, Fabia
however, none of them do a sporty diesel, so they're all topping out at about 100bhp
But certainly things to compare against might be:
Renault Clio, Mitsubishi Colt, Fiat Grande Punto, Ford Fiesta, Polo, Fabia
however, none of them do a sporty diesel, so they're all topping out at about 100bhp
Leonidas
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Now that I look at the skoda website it dos'nt seem to add up.
it says 77kw (115bhp). I think it should be 105.
But would'nt the 16v be better that the 8v in power and CO2.
it says 77kw (115bhp). I think it should be 105.
But would'nt the 16v be better that the 8v in power and CO2.
Hmmm...
Not too fussed on it.
The interior reminds me of a new civic.
Hopefully the 3-door will be sporty as fook tho
Not too fussed on it.
The interior reminds me of a new civic.
Hopefully the 3-door will be sporty as fook tho
i saw a fiesta with a ST TDI badges the other day haha
may not be that many sport comparisions at the moment however ford and vauxhall are coming up with more of these sporty 1.9 tdci's or w/e theyre called... so look out VAG.
haha may not be that many sport comparisions at the moment however ford and vauxhall are coming up with more of these sporty 1.9 tdci's or w/e theyre called... so look out VAG.
Leonidas
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I was thinking there would be a1.2 70bhp, 1.2t 105bhp, 1.4t 125bhp, 1.8t 160bhp(FR) and a 2.0t 200bhp(Cupra) or at least I was hoping.
wouldnt have thought they would run low powered turbos unless diesel. as turbos = less reliability theoretically and NA runs fine for the lil engines. Im sure seat will have something up their sleave, they cant be all cutting back for extra profit.
Leonidas
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Leonidas
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Found this about the engines I mentioned
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/octavia-ii/new-1-6-tdi-100hp-130hp/92996/
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/octavia-ii/new-1-6-tdi-100hp-130hp/92996/
The source is this forum thread (there you can find hi-res pictures).
Rough translation into English (after reading all posts by KoRSaK): "I was driving my car (with my girlfriend in it) at 93mph on the AP7 motorway nearby Sant Cugat when we saw a new Ibiza. When we took the first picture with a mobile phone the driver saw the flash and put the pedal to the metal. We couldn't take pictures of the front of the car. My car is an Ibiza FR TDI but I didn't want to chase him because I have an L-plate on the back of my car".
Sant Cugat is not far away from Martorell. In Spain after obtaining the driver license it is compulsory to put on the back of the car an L-plate during 1 year. It restricts the driver to a maximum speed of 50mph...
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Leonidas
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I don't know if this has being brought up, but will the wipers be coming down from the sides like in the leon?????????
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