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DPJ's GTRS Eliminator Install and Development

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I bet the intake is alright for performance, really. Might change my mind when I see it though :D

You want an equal length manifold, you do...

Aquamist? Let you run more timing, can you fiddle with the settings on Stage3?
 

DPJ

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(a)I bet the intake is alright for performance, really. Might change my mind when I see it though :D

(b)You want an equal length manifold, you do...

(c)Aquamist? (d) Let you run more timing, can you fiddle with the settings on Stage3?

(a) pukka ATP phil and it's probably ok - it looks a right abortion though. :rolleyes:

(b) yes. and yes. That's the bugger - A DIY installer could whop on a manifold and turbo - but then you need a custom DP and your car is sat in your garage with no way of getting to the exhaust manufacturer....... In fact I've just answered my own question. Get the car trailered there and you're still looking at workably cheap solution.. :shrug:

(c) Do you think I should be looking at Aquamist early on?

(d) I assume so. I keep meaning to ask Kev if it's still got the basic Revo-off map.

(e) Intercooler. All being well, I'll fit the LCR FMIC in a couple of weeks. Charge out between battery and engine. (Thanks for the offer of your old charge pipe, Phil - can I unreserve it :) ) The FMIC may not fit behind the pre-facelift bumper & lower skirt - or get enough air. Some hacking/modification may be required - or even :scary: an lcr front!
 

Cupra R

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Well, I've just sat and read this whole thread and really enjoyed it, the up's and down's and all.

It's a sterling job youv'e done there Dave, well done.

Looking forward to seeing it at the next RR.
 
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Can you get REVO Select for Stage 3? That or Lemmiwinks i reckon with some water/meth, not aquamist but Snow Performance kit.

Get a 3" downpipe with removable cat as well.

SNIFF MY DIFF!!! Diff has gotta be done as well.


And as m0rk said, you gotta start the settings down low as your only running standard internals so be careful as i think this turbo setup will be on the limit.


Hows the clutch as well?
 

Saul

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open up the ports in the head to get more flow, 3" dp and large inlet, this is your next bottle neck, then it would be inlet manifold

this all depends on how hard you are working the turbo tho (flow/pressure)

good work though dave :thumbup:
 

DPJ

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Plenty of food for thought, guys, thank you!

The issues I encountered on Saturday which took some time were:

Driveshaft coupling shield. This protects the rubber boot on the inner joint from the heat of the turbo, and I suppose prevents grease being thrown on the turbine where it could burn. I cut a notch out of it for the oil drain to fit into, but the shield is still just being kissed by the coupling. I think the flexi part of the oil drain may be making the shield distort slightly. I've decided I need to get the trusty mirror out to try to pinpoint the problem.

I discovered a coolant leak on the coolant return flexi and I suspected the flexi was damaged. I'd spent ages checking the connections before I put the turbo on the car. I finally discovered there was one nut I hadn't tightened. :rolleyes:

The compressor outlet on the turbo is about 90mm further across to the passenger side than the K03S outlet. ATP supply a short piece of hose and a coupler to bridge the gap to the charge pipe. When fitted, it was too long and when everything was tightened, the elbow hose on the compressor outlet was kinking. The only thing that could be trimmed was the elbow hose so that lost 12mm. Temporary fitment.

I turned the engine over many times without the ECU in to circulate oil and get rid of any airlocks in the coolant system. I kept having to top up the coolant between bouts.

Road tests and initial logging start tonight. I must remember to put my wiper arms back on.
 

charlietruman

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Dave, really fantastic job!

I wish i had the right level of understanding and tools to attempt my GTRS install but i dont so i am having JKM do it, getting a little concered that the install cost is going to go through the roof, taking into consideration the amount of custom work involved in getting this "bolt on" turbo to fit!

Good luck tonight! i will be awaiting your results with anticipation!

will let you know when mine is finished, still need to find an S3 MAF housing yet!
 

DPJ

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I had another look at the driveshaft shield tonight - I decided it was the coolant flexi return that was pushing the shield against the driveshaft coupling slightly. Bright lights and mirror and :scary: - a small coolant leak on the banjo on the block - AND I'd misplaced the gasket on the oil return on the base of the turbo - just as in the following picture!
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(The picture above is a 5 speed. My 6 speed has a much bigger coupling with the bolts running right underneath the oil drain!)

I dropped the driveshaft again and located the oil drain gasket without any oil loss. A bucket under the back of the engine, undid the banjo and I managed to catch 90% of the coolant. I redid the banjo with some better copper washers.

Fire up and warm up - no leaks this time. The smell of new gaskets etc on a warming engine is always a little alarming - but no probs.

Axle stands out, go to drive it off the ramps..... Can't quite get reverse. I pushed it off the ramps for safety, adjusted the shifter cable slightly and reverse is easy.

SPS3 out. - Revo on - LB5, T5.
Went for a 1 mile drive. Then a two mile drive, then 3 miles. Then 3 5-milers. Each time, I brought it home, bonnet up to check all looked ok.

Sorry, I haven't done any logs tonight, I've decided to let it settle in gently for a few days.

I am one happy bunny! [B)]:funk::D

The car is a nice smooth drive as before. No issues with the gearchange - it doesn't feel any different to before.

The sound of the turbo is awesome, like an air raid siren starting up. It doesn't feel laggy and **** me, it pulls like a train! I haven't pushed it hard for long, but the car has a LOT more poke and the induction sound is also really good. No error codes.

I am really looking forward to tweaking this up. :rock:

A big thanks to everyone here who has given me the moral support to get it done. I also have to say, thank you Revo! I'm so impressed that the flashed stage 3 can come on your ecu in the post.
 

cupra_matt

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Dec 15, 2004
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Fantatic mate, you gotta be chuffed.

You getting on the rollers soon?


NICE WORK. Well done you!!!!

If you dont mind me asking, where abouts do you live?
 

DPJ

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Fantatic mate, you gotta be chuffed.

You getting on the rollers soon?


NICE WORK. Well done you!!!!

If you dont mind me asking, where abouts do you live?

I'm gutted about yours though Matt. I hope you can come up with a workable solution.

Well yes, I'm well pleased with myself tonight. Not bad for a cack-hander without a garage on a gravel drive.

I've got to build the pipework for the FMIC next. Then I'll look at getting it on the rollers.

I'm just near Scotch Corner, I know Carlisle quite well.
 

wild willy

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All worth while :D i love it when a plan comes together.
You can't beat the feeling of watching wispy smoke emitting from the turbo area of the engine bay and thinking b**tard a gasget is blowing, when minutes latter you realise / hope its the WD40.....Like wining the lottery.;)
Edit: Dave I recon your so pleased with yourself you've had to put your balls in a wheel barrow to get around they're so big now. :lol:
 
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cupra_matt

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Dec 15, 2004
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Scotch corner, not that far away.

Bet your not as gutted as me about mine, but in the end it will come together iam sure. Just gonna be even longer.

cack-hander LOL
 
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Nov 2, 2004
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I've heard about the return on the driveshaft casing, what the guy on vortex done was to bend it slightly, thats it.

Gotta love what the higher settings are gonna be like if you only ran LB9 T5. I bet something more up the settings would be awesome. Just watch your rods! lol.


Really pleased for you tho dave, been awesome reading it, and chipping in now and again so i can understand whats goin on for my own install. Well done mate. :D
 
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