Warming up

[Loko]

Damo,

Misunderstood your post. If you're talking about your coolant temp then you have a duff temp sender or a sticky thermostat.

It might be initial signs of a poorly thermostat...they do usually stick either open (if you're lucky - just means your block runs too cold) or closed (if you're unlucky - means you'll overheat in traffic when your radiator doesn't kick in!).

If it's the sender it's a cheap, quick job.

 

[Damo]

Damo,

cheap, quick job.

BINGO!.
At last, something thats cheap to fix, lol.

Many thanks for the info (including the stuff about oil, lol). It's all useful to know

 

[T.C cupra]

I wait until revs drop to normal and then drive it carefully for about 15-20 min. oil takes longer to warm up than water. As soon as the water temp reaches 90 the oil temp is only at about 45. so i wait until they av both reached 90 before i nail it!!!

 

[Jammy]

The sender was 18 quid i think, takes about 2mins to change over and you dont loose all the coolant (if your quick) just make sure you do it when the engine is cold.

Sender units are cheap and easy to replace, even if its not gubbed, it rules out it being gubbed for when you go fault finding.

JAmes.

ps. oooo just realised i've not got the same engine as you, i'm sure it'll be a similar sensor though and i think its roughly the same thermostat layout. maybe someone with the same car could help you out?

 

[Damo]

Cheers Jammy.

I'll go to the stealers and get the part ordered up (i'd imagine the prices should be similar if not identical).
I'll do a search on here as well about fitment and do it before it gets to cold outside.

 

[Damo]

Update;

I've replaced the coolant temp sensor but things haven't really changed an awful lot (it is better than it was). It's still taking about 15-20mins to get up to 90dC from a cold start. Once it gets to that temp, the gauge will sometimes creep back ever so slightly (certainly not anywhere near as much as before changing the sensor). Thing is, once the car has been driven for a good half hour or so, the gauge no longer creeps back.

No fault codes have been logged.

Am I worrying over nothing on this?

 

[Cupra R 231]

Still sounds like you got a problem...
Even my oil doesn't take that long to warm up...
Coolant should be warm in 5 - 6 mins max I would think..
From the point when the needle starts moving to when it hits 90deg takes no time at all infact you can see it climbing. At no point has it ever creeped back at all....
Reckon you got a prob with the thermostat sticking open slightly....

 

[Damo]

The needle starts to move from 60dC after about 5mins.
It does seems to hang around the 75dC mark for a while.

I initially thought it might be down to the FMIC cos once this was fitted, getting the car warmed up seemed to take longer than before.

Do you know where the thermostat is in the engine bay?

I'm going to time exactly how long it takes to warm up tomorrow morning.
So it should go from 60 to 90 on the gauge in about 5-6 mins?

 

[Cupra R 231]

Yep I'm sure mine is warm within 5-6 mins (coolant anyay), the oil takes another 5-6 on top of that....
Have you got a standard coolant gauge because mine starts at 60 deg????
But from the point where it comes on the gauge (60deg) to when it hits 90deg is probably around 1 min possibly less. as i say you can see it climb at a fairly fast rate....
As for where the thermostat is to be honest I don't know I've never looked. could have a look in day light and get back to you but i'm sure someone on here could tell you straight away

 

[Damo]

Have you got a standard coolant gauge because mine starts at 60 deg????

Lol, yep sorry, standard gauges so it starts from 60dC.
I can't believe I had to run down to the car and check, I've had the car for 5+ years

As for where the thermostat is to be honest I don't know I've never looked. could have a look in day light and get back to you but i'm sure someone on here could tell you straight away

If you wouldn't mind having a quick peek for me tomorrow (in case no-one else replies) that would be much appreciated.

 

[Cupra R 231]

Yeah can have a better look tomoro...
I reckon it'll be on the right hand side of the head looking at the front of the car, just going from previous experience with other cars....
If you take the engine cover off you should see it bolted to the side of the head with a few pipes leaving it.. Should be a large pipe leaving from the front of it heading towards the radiator....
Where that large pipe comes out to go to the rad, the outlet stub it is attached to should be removable and just behind that should be the thermostat...
But I never changed one or even bothered looking for it on any 20vt engines so I'm only assuming its in this position... (all other cars I worked on are in that place and there surely can't be many places to put the thermostat housing......

 

[Jammy]

i would expect the thermostat to be in the plastic housing that the temp sensor goes into. This should be replaces next as its the next most cheap and will rule out it being broken. Sounds like you have an issue with it though, so i would be trying it, even if you need to pay to have it fitted.

I am sure someone on here must know how to change it over though.

JAmes

 

[Damo]

All sorted now chaps. Thermostat replaced (located at front of block to the lower left) and warming up a good'un now.

Cheers for the help.

 

[Cupra R 231]

Nice 1 good to hear.....
Thought it was the thermostat first time you said.....

 

[MrSkinny]

Its an IBIZA not a Ferari!

For f*cks sake you losers, why are you on about cool down times?? Just drive the bloody car and stop wasting everyones time. Your all on about your cars as if they're Feraris. Stop wasting time with additional cr*p and save up for a real car...like my Leon Cupra .

 

[brad_cupra05]

For f*cks sake you losers, why are you on about cool down times?? Just drive the bloody car and stop wasting everyones time. Your all on about your cars as if they're Feraris. Stop wasting time with additional cr*p and save up for a real car...like my Leon Cupra .

In case you havent noticed this is an enthusiast site so people want to take care of there cars whether its a ferrari or an ibiza is not the issue! also warming up and cooling down prolongs turbo life and i dont know about you but id like my turbo to last as long as possible!

 

[blackie]

1 post....Mrskinny.......

Hmmmm id suggest you bugger off and crawl back under what ever rock you crawled out from under. It was an a adult conversation.

 

[Cupra R 231]

If you don't give a crap about your car then you not a car enthusiast....

Most\all the people that use this site are enthusiasts and for the people that don't know what damage they can be doing by not warming up or cooling down, it may just save them a very costly bill they could of very easily avoided....
As posted... for the stupid comments you've made on your first post I think you should be crawling away under that rock......
A real car..... Your leon.... No offence but at least the ibiza is quite limited in numbers as aposed to the millions of leons you see every day..... That and there is a list longer than my arm of the ibizas on this forum that what destroy you leon.........

Please grow up and while your at it grow a brain.........

 

[blackie]

here here lol