Who Says an Induction Kit doesn't make a difference?

[DPJ]

Following my previous logging session with std airbox (results here) 185.5 g/s, I refitted my Maxflow RamAir today. I'd bought a new core for it.

Here are my logs. Air temp 5 degrees, the only other thing is that following a tip from our sooty friends I put some dielectric grease on my MAF and N75 terminals. (same SP3 settings)

Sunday	4	February	2007				
06A 906 032 HN		1.8L R4/5VT         0002					

'003				'020			
Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC				
 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
2000	44.06	100	12	0	3	0	0
2160	57.14	100	14.3	0	3	0	3
2360	79.53	100	3.8	0	3	0	3
2640	99.14	100	0.8	0	2.3	0	2.3
2840	100.75	100	3	0	2.3	0	1.5
3120	107.83	100	0.8	0	2.3	0	0.8
3360	119	100	1.5	0	1.5	0	0
3560	129.64	100	0.8	0	0.8	0	0
3800	133.75	100	1.5	0	0	0	0
3960	140.61	100	3.8	0	0	0	0
4200	146.94	100	5.3	0	0	0	0
4440	155.72	100	5.3	0	0	0	0
4640	160.81	100	4.5	0	0	0	0
4840	166.44	100	4.5	0	0	0	0
5080	176.81	100	5.3	0	0	0	0
5280	183.81	100	5.3	0	0	0	0
5440	187.5	100	5.3	0	0	0	0
5600	191.83	100	6.8	0	0	0	0
5760	193	100	7.5	0	0	0	0
5920	196.25	100	6.8	0	0	0	0
6040	194.19	100	6.8	0	0	0	0
6160	196.25	100	7.5	0	0	0	0
6280	196.53	100	8.3	0	0	0	0

Things getting a bit warm by the time I did the following run (FMIC urgently needed) but now holding past 2bar over 6k....

Sunday	4	February	2007	16:53:53	
06A 906 032 HN		1.8L R4/5VT         0002			

'115				Group B:	'031
Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Lambda Factor
700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar		
 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar		
2360	134.6	2280	1720	0.961	1
2560	172.2	2360	2220	1.008	1
2800	180.5	2460	2360	0.953	0.953
3040	182.7	2450	2310	0.922	0.906
3240	182.7	2370	2280	0.852	0.836
3440	189.5	2310	2330	0.828	0.836
3640	186.5	2310	2290	0.821	0.836
3840	185.7	2330	2320	0.828	0.836
4040	186.5	2350	2340	0.821	0.836
4320	185.7	2330	2340	0.821	0.836
4560	185	2310	2310	0.828	0.836
4760	183.5	2280	2280	0.828	0.836
4960	182.7	2270	2250	0.828	0.836
5200	184.2	2270	2250	0.828	0.836
5400	181.2	2290	2240	0.821	0.836
5560	180.5	2270	2230	0.813	0.836
5720	176.7	2210	2170	0.828	0.836
5880	173.7	2160	2130	0.821	0.836
6000	169.9	2130	2090	0.828	0.836
6120	166.9	2120	2090	0.836	0.836
6240	164.7	2120	2050	0.821	0.836
6360	162.4	2130	2040	0.821	0.836

You can really feel the difference in poke with the RamAir back on. It flies.
I wonder if 200g/s is achievable with a FMIC and some SP3 tweaking....

 

[cordobabrendy]

fook me mate 196 g/s is very good mate, im only getting around 185 at the moment as im still running the stock stage 2 settings i think from when i was revod in 2005.

 

[DPJ]

Difficult to describe but it really feels 'alive' now.

FMIC next to see what's the best we can get from the poor old K03S before we move on.

 

[gazjones]

that is good im seeing 187g/s with boost 9 timing 8 so i need more g/s

 

[DPJ]

that is good im seeing 187g/s with boost 9 timing 8 so i need more g/s

What CFs are you getting with that setting Gaz? I must try mine on Boost 9 when I get time....

 

[gazjones]

erm 3's if i run octane booster i think but got those figures just on v power so its prob pulling back a bit will re logg with octane booster next week see if it improves. i wouldnt run those settings without a fmic though

 

[DPJ]

erm 3's if i run octane booster i think but got those figures just on v power so its prob pulling back a bit will re logg with octane booster next week see if it improves. i wouldnt run those settings without a fmic though

i wouldnt run those settings without a fmic though

Yes, you're right, perhaps I should leave mine at the settings its on for now!

 

[DamoR]

As you know I am running a ramair at moment after these useful readings maybe I wont fit my smoothed airbox after all!

 

[Saul]

dave, 196 is the max ive ever hit with a brand new filter, tip and fmic on

 

[DPJ]

dave, 196 is the max ive ever hit with a brand new filter, tip and fmic on

I've always been impressed by the performance of your car, Saul.

(I've got an ATP manifold on - perhaps with a FMIC I could squeeze those few extra grams! )

 

[Saul]

only did it once mind you, consistent 186-188 on mine

 

[P-torque.co.uk]

We are main UK distributors for the Ramair filters.

They do give great results, are are priced very well in the market. When we have the new rolling road in we will be doing some more in depth tests to see what gains they are acheiving.

 

[DPJ]

We are main UK distributors for the Ramair filters.

They do give great results, are are priced very well in the market. When we have the new rolling road in we will be doing some more in depth tests to see what gains they are acheiving.

What you need to do (I think) is to find a reliable way to mount them in a VAG 1.8T. In my opinion the strut from battery tray to MAF just passes body shocks to the MAF.

My RamAir is currently sitting on it's own little cushion of bubblewrap bound in tank tape. (and a flexible bracket to the suspension turret mount)

 

[P-torque.co.uk]

I'll have a chat to the guys at Ramair and see whats said about this.

 

[RobM]

I'd be interested to know what's said about improving the mount for this, so keep is posted

 

[traumapat]

intresting.
im wondering if the dielectric grease played a part in this? when iused it on my maf connecter the car definatly responded better. power felt looser. like id removed a sock from the air intake.

 

[acidstrato]

those are some galactic flow figures!

i didnt realise the k03s was capable of flowing that much, with the results iv seen first hand, healthy mafs on k03s equipped motors flowed no more than my k03 which iv had peak at 162g/s

 

[Martyn]

Carl, I was hitting high 180s on my Ibiza when it was running nicely (Smoothed airbox with green panel).

 

[DamoR]

News on a more robust way of mounting the ramair would be greatly appreciated as I just knackered a maf at the point which mounts the ramair bracket to the MAF. Strut top seems a good idea, raid should manufacture a bracket for this as they would sell well as an aftermarket part. This bracket could be added to all future kits as a standard item.

DPJ have you got a pic of this bracket?

 

[DPJ]

intresting.
im wondering if the dielectric grease played a part in this? when iused it on my maf connecter the car definatly responded better. power felt looser. like id removed a sock from the air intake.

I really wish I'd done a before and after with the grease now! I'd always use it from now on though.