VW Golf R 310 DSG vs. SEAT Leon Cupra 300 DSG

[arf1989]

I'm aware the Golf has 10ps more than the Cupra but was wondering why the Golf uses a 7-speed automatic whereas the Cupra uses a 6-speed automatic?

 

[misiakupatego]

Because VW like Golf and Seat is budget brand of VAG group.

 

[WhiteCupra290]

The 7 speed is the latest flagship dsg box, shown in the latest Golf R and the coming new polo GTI,

It'll be the next cupra that the new box filters down to it


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[Ckpearce91]

The 7 speed is the latest flagship dsg box, shown in the latest Golf R and the coming new polo GTI,

It'll be the next cupra that the new box filters down to it


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And then VW and Audi will get an 8 speed

 

[WhiteCupra290]

exactly buddy


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[jpor]

Personally It's not bad having the 7 speed DSG compared to the 6 Speed. Currently gone from a 6 speed in a 184 FR TDI LEON to the Golf Mk7.5 R. Only problem is if using the paddles is your downshifting 1 more if needed. Also when planting the power down it can catch the DSG box out. Feels like it downshifts too much and revs the nuts off before upshifting. Maybe a software fix needed? Anyways it's not bad.

 

[arf1989]

Personally It's not bad having the 7 speed DSG compared to the 6 Speed. Currently gone from a 6 speed in a 184 FR TDI LEON to the Golf Mk7.5 R. Only problem is if using the paddles is your downshifting 1 more if needed. Also when planting the power down it can catch the DSG box out. Feels like it downshifts too much and revs the nuts off before upshifting. Maybe a software fix needed? Anyways it's not bad.

Do you prefer the 6 speed auto instead? I'm concerned it won't be as 'smooth and refined' as the 7 speed auto when in cruising speed but maybe I'm wrong?

 

[jpor]

Do you prefer the 6 speed auto instead? I'm concerned it won't be as 'smooth and refined' as the 7 speed auto when in cruising speed but maybe I'm wrong?

It's horses for courses. The 6 speed I had was in a Diesel (TDI) and was good enough for the car. As for petrol the 7-speed I'm using in my Golf R petrol is handy. To be honest the only thing I see more is that in Sport/race mode it goes to S6 instead of in my 6-speed TDI only going to S5. Not sure how that would translate in the CUPRA 300 in Cupra mode?
I can presume the 7 speed makes the car more economical when in top gear. Although the golf R isn't the best economical car. So maybe why the Cupra still has the 6-speed at the moment?

 

[WhenImAlone]

I wouldn't out much stock in the 10ps more thing since VW are renowned for underselling their output. For example, on a rolling road my mate's Cupra 280 was pushing 300 stock.

 

[AndrewJB]

I wouldn't out much stock in the 10ps more thing since VW are renowned for underselling their output. For example, on a rolling road my mate's Cupra 280 was pushing 300 stock.

My stock 280 made 300 twice on different RR

 

[WhenImAlone]

My stock 280 made 300 twice on different RR

Keep meaning to put mine on one tbh but haven't got around to it yet!

 

[Kane7]

Can second that on my 290

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[philmots]

Cupra will still be noticeably quicker (apart from standing start)

So much less weight and drag.

 

[Cupra Belfast]

& a lower level of mechanical losses.

Cupra will still be noticeably quicker (apart from standing start)

So much less weight and drag.

& a lower level of mechanical losses.