Upper rear brake light lens

ChrisM75

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The brake light integrated into the spoiler of my Cupra is broken. No idea how.

Does anyone know the part number, or if its the same on the Cupra as it is on the other models?
 

black_sheep

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Difference between 5dr hatch and ST.

Known fault on pre-FL and FL cars. There is a stress raiser around the washer nozzle and cracks propagate - I guess this is where your is broken?

If the car is in warranty get them to replace it.

By the way, I’m a fairly competent engineer and found the lens replacement to be an absolute PITA!
 

ChrisM75

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Yeah i checked, thats where its broken. I'll get to the dealer monday and mention it. I find it helps if you say the owners club say its a known fault..
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black_sheep

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My last post was here:


So far, 3 x replacements on pre-FL FR hatch (5 years/135k miles), 1 x replacement FL Cupra ST (3 years/25k miles). I daren’t even go out to look in case it’s gone again!!!

And don’t get me started on the near side front wheel arch liner…
 

ChrisM75

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Well its booked in for the 22nd to be looked at. Hopefully i wont get any resistance with regards to the warranty. The car has to go back in June and there are enough marks on it already, none of which I did!
 

Eskilation

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I am in on the 20th for an MOT, and will mention this at the same time as mine is cracked noticed a while back, was not when bought so happened sometime, maybe over frost in winter, see what response I get and update, don't think it's leaking seems a weak point, but better than my old golf that used to fill the boot and wet the roof lining when the pipe came off over winter time.
 

Eskilation

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MOTed today didn’t affect it as not in light part and replacement ordered under warranty. Awaiting part delivery for fitting.

Seems a valid claim still. Not sure how long replacement will last will keep an eye once fitted.
 

ChrisM75

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Well i had the car looked at this morning finally. They refused warranty, saying there is no evidence of a manufacturing defect and no technical bulletin about it being an issue.

I argued and said others have had it done, but no go.

So question is whats the part number, ill have to do it myself.
 

black_sheep

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Well i had the car looked at this morning finally. They refused warranty, saying there is no evidence of a manufacturing defect and no technical bulletin about it being an issue.

I argued and said others have had it done, but no go.

So question is whats the part number, ill have to do it myself.
If you can be bothered, ring Seat Customer Service / Talk to Seat.

Log it and raise that you think that it’s a manufacturing defect - evidence that many are failing in the same place (use the links from here), and that inconsistent approach is being used with respect to warranty. Will take a couple of weeks, but I expect that it will go in your favour.
 

RUM4MO

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Is it not maybe a design error - but with same outcome, the blame lies with SEAT and the responsibility lied with the importer who are SEAT UK.

I'm just adding that in case someone starts to run out reasons/logic as to why they are getting "bumped".
 

black_sheep

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Is it not maybe a design error - but with same outcome, the blame lies with SEAT and the responsibility lied with the importer who are SEAT UK.

I'm just adding that in case someone starts to run out reasons/logic as to why they are getting "bumped".
Yes - you are correct that it’s a design error over manufacturing defect. It’s fatigue cracking from the stress raiser around the washer exit point in the lens.
 

Eskilation

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I am in next week for the replacement to be fitted to mine, will check on the part number and if any bulletin number and share, also noticed the wife's now gone 1 month out of warranty I did check a month back and nothing (maybe frost related) so will also be asking for that one and update on how they respond, sorry about yours but will get all the info I can and share once I have it...
 

ChrisM75

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Ive ordered the part, it was only £68 delivered and it seems easy enough to fit.

Seat CS were useless as expected, just said go to another dealer. If it was an expensive problem i'd fight it more.
 

Eskilation

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Dealer can be very hit and miss, the dealer I purchased from not very helpful, my local one for once is better (at the moment) I expect I will be ordering one for the wife..
 

ChrisM75

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The guy on the desk was pretty honest. He said that they could do it today, but if SeatUK refuse warranty they wont get paid, and then I'd get billed. Not really worth the risk, since they would probably charge more than £68 to do it.
 

RUM4MO

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This is a bit strange in as SEAT seems to suffer from plastic light clusters failing more than any other VW Group marque - or an awareness of it gets more public exposure. Is this due to the SEAT styling being more "exotic" than the other VW Group marques, so more risks are being taking over design and so plastics fail.

My daughter's late 2009 Ibiza SC had water ingress issues with both the rear light clusters which I sorted out by applying sealant into the joining areas of the plastic parts. A friend of my wife, who thinks they have a very good relationship with their local SEAT dealership, has had over the past 2 Leons, within warranty, had to pay for getting rear cluster replaced, one twice - but I'd doubt if they would have contested these issues. I've not seen them face to face for a couple of years, so I can't say if they have also had this high level brake light issue.
Okay, my mate's son had to replace a rear light cluster on his 2006 Polo recently, but at that age, not so much as an annoying issue as plenty good quality rear light clusters are now available via scrappy's.
 

ChrisM75

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OK ive got the light, but the advice for changing one doesnt seem to apply to the Cupra. I looks like i need to remove the spoiler lower trim, any ideas how?
 
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