Seized Brake calliper

[pocket]

I wonder if anyone could help me. Since owning th ecar i've had an on and off seized sear side rear brake calliper. I didnt get it fixed at first because i had an engine starting problem and i wanted to get that sorted before paying the £180 the garage wanted for the part.

It has been fine with onyl really a groaning noise when reversing (without pressing the brake) untill recently when the car was stationary for 10 days while i was on holiday. Now you hear it rubbing when going less than 10mph.

So time to get it fixed.

I see euro parts has 25% off in april but they have two calipers listed for a 2001 V5 170hp.

they are;

Pagid rear left caliper £180

Pagid Caliper (rear Left) Part No.: 133442810
Brake Disc Thickness (mm) 9
Brake System Lucas
Caliper Type 1 Piston
Disc Type Solid
Fitting Position Rear Left
For cable Ø (mm) 6
Inner Width (mm) 44
O.E. Units Lucas
Piston Diameter (mm) 38, 41, 54

or

Pagid Rear Left £171.60

Pagid Caliper (rear left) Part No.: 133441990
Brake Disc Thickness (mm) 9
Brake System Lucas
Caliper Type 1 Piston
Fitting Position Rear Left
For cable Ø (mm) 3
O.E. Units Lucas
Piston Diameter (mm) 41
Fitting Position Rear Left
Fitted Quantity 1

anyone know what the difference is?

Next question is, do i need any special tools or anything? i read on another thread about some sort of winding tool?

I've never changed anything to do with the brakes but my pal has. He's asked me to ask on here if there is anything unexpected to, erm, expect.

 

[Muttley]

The difference between those two calipers looks to be in the handbrake cable attachment.

However by what I can see neither is right for your car. Elsawin says your car has vented rear disks, 22mm thick, 256mm diameter and needs a Lucas/TRW caliper with a 38mm piston.

You will need a windback tool to set the piston depth and to wind back the piston in the other caliper assuming you're changing the pads as well. There is a threaded rod up the middle of the piston,attached to the handbrake mechanism.

If you're changing the caliper, some sort of clamp to stop all the hydraulic fluid leaking out is needed. If you let air get back to the ABS unit it's very difficult to bleed out, requiring VAG-com or a dealers maintenance computer setup to exercise the ABS.

 

[pocket]

hmmm, that's not so good.

looking on ebay there is this;
2.3 toledo caliper

but then it says piston diameter 41mm and you say Elsawin says its 38mm....

 

[Slimy]

I don't know whether it's pure coincidence, but Dave at Sere has just posted some updated brake part prices. He's got LCR rear calipers at £95 each, he may be able to get you a Toledo one for a similar price (if the LCR one isn't the same part).

This is the thread;

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=303803. Either contact him directly or respond to the thread? He should be able to get you the exact part off your VIN I think?

 

[Muttley]

It also says disk thickness 9mm which is a solid disk, not a vented one.

Can you have a look at your rear disks to confirm if they are vented or not? should be immediately obvious - the should look like these.

http://www.vwsonline.co.uk/car_parts_bristol/vw/bora/bora1j/brakes/discs/8n0-615-601b.html

 

[Muttley]

As far as I can tell there are only three types of rear brake fit over the whole Leon1/Toledo2 range -

• solid, 9mm thick 232mm diameter, 38mm caliper piston
• solid, 9mm thick, 232mm diameter, 41mm caliper piston (20vT, 180BHp cars)
• vented, 22mm thick, 256mm diameter, 38mm caliper piston (LCR, V5/V6 cars and the TDI 150 4x4)

 

[Slimy]

The V5 170 uses vented discs on the back, 256mm.

 

[Slimy]

[*]vented, 22mm thick, 256mm diameter, 38mm caliper piston (LCR, V5/V6 cars and the TDI 150 4x4)
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In that case, £95 with Sere seems like the best way to go?

 

[pocket]

unfortunately this has became kinda urgent. The sort of sound you hear when your brakes have rusted started coming from it yesterday. I had a look and my novice eyes didn't notice anything, then i looked at the other side and realised there is no actual pad part left. DOH! Serves me right for putting it off and off.

So now i'm needing a caliper, pads and most likely discs.

 

[pocket]

went one europarts and searched for 2001 cupra.

if one of you wouldn't mind looking, assume these are correct?

Rear discs

pads

Caliper

 

[Slimy]

The discs look fine, the pads look to be a match. The caliper is certainly better than the other ones you were looking at, 38mm for a vented disc.

Are you sure you don't want to use Dave at Sere though? He is remarkably quick in sending the parts out and you'll save a fortune on the caliper alone.

 

[Muttley]

Agree with Slimy on all points Caliper is 22mm disc thickness, 38mm piston, matches the spec.

 

[pocket]

a wee update, Dave was about £20 cheaper than europarts once you took into account the April 25% discount code on the europarts website. But Europarts also have a £54 refund after that once you take in the old caliper.

I also called up my local national tyres, it was £290 to get the caliper and pads changed and they'd have a look at the discs.

Called a local garage who changed the caliper and pads for £177, which seems a bargain to me. I went with this as my pal wasn't able to help me this weekend and i was slightly nervous about attempting to take apart the brakes on my own.

Feels odd not having an elephant sitting in my boot when reversing.