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Running rough - coilpack?

rsrich

Newbie
Aug 23, 2006
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tlewis - agreed yours sounds exactly like coilpack.

Please don't use aftermarket replacement packs, no matter how cheap they are or how many decades warranty they claim to offer! Oh, and always keep at least one spare in the boot, if a coilpack packs up completely it makes the car almost undriveable and you're pretty much stranded. Also be aware you need a 10mm spanner and 5mm allen key to get number 4 pack out, there's a vacuum vessel and bracket that have to be removed to access #4 coil.
 

tlewis14

Guest
tlewis - agreed yours sounds exactly like coilpack.

Please don't use aftermarket replacement packs, no matter how cheap they are or how many decades warranty they claim to offer! Oh, and always keep at least one spare in the boot, if a coilpack packs up completely it makes the car almost undriveable and you're pretty much stranded. Also be aware you need a 10mm spanner and 5mm allen key to get number 4 pack out, there's a vacuum vessel and bracket that have to be removed to access #4 coil.

thanks for the response, makes abit easier to deal with if its cheaper than say a new turbo :rofl: ive a local VW garage in which im in the process of talking to, any other suggestions on what to get and where from as im clueless.:confused:
 

Phillc

Love is....Yellow
Apr 23, 2007
4,170
20
Pershore, worcestershire
cheers for the reply phil, like i said Ive got a supposed new spare given with car, someone mentioned pulling one out at a time to find the faulty one, seen the ones on ebay £88 for four with lifetime warranty?? has changing the coil packs on yours sorted it? also silly question... as i'm new to this whats vag-com? i'm assuming diagnostic machine?

Yeah all sorted now, and yes Vag-com is a diagnostic program, the problem with pulling the coils one at a time is if its only playing up under load that wont work.
 

tlewis14

Guest
Yeah all sorted now, and yes Vag-com is a diagnostic program, the problem with pulling the coils one at a time is if its only playing up under load that wont work.

would you recommend getting 4 new ones as apposed to changing one at a time? is there any better longer lasting ones out there, where mines been chipped to 275+bhp im thinking of changing things that through a fault after chipping, may be costly at first but gets it out of the way, thinking after coil packs to have a go at the MAF meter. a few issues to deal with after i had it serviced yesterday guys picked up on a few bits that need doing, im not a stranger to mechanics so will check before i get work done, hardest thing to find will be an oil leak coming from somewhere, seems to be deeper and further behind oil filter as fresh oil on under car shield.
 

Phillc

Love is....Yellow
Apr 23, 2007
4,170
20
Pershore, worcestershire
I bought four new ones when mine went, it is usual for them to go after mapping as it puts extra strain on everything so anything that is not quite 100% is likley to fail or start to, the newer coils are better now have a search there is a thread some where with the new part numbers.
 

rsrich

Newbie
Aug 23, 2006
208
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Latest "D" revision 1.8T coils - 06A 905 115 D - are supposed to be reliable now. However another alternative is 2.0 TFSi coils - 07K 905 715 F - which are reputedly better. We have been using them in our race car this season at 400+bhp and gaps of 1.0mm with no problem. There is no way 1.8T ones have come close previously. Be aware though that these are about 15mm taller than 1.8T ones, so arrangement needs top be made to locate them in the cam cover. There are companies offering spacers which bolt to the cover, alternatively cut the rubber seal portion from some old coils and slide onto the longer TFSi ones.
 

8bit

Active Member
Feb 11, 2010
3,401
3
Aberdeen
Go to Awesome GTI, they do a set of four for under £90. Cheaper than the stealers and they look nicer too as they have a red border round the black cap.

Pretty sure they're newer than the D revision too, I'll check the part number (they are OEM VAG parts) tomorrow when working on my car.
 

lmiller

Boost Junkie!
Aug 9, 2011
527
0
South East Kent
Go to Awesome GTI, they do a set of four for under £90. Cheaper than the stealers and they look nicer too as they have a red border round the black cap.

Pretty sure they're newer than the D revision too, I'll check the part number (they are OEM VAG parts) tomorrow when working on my car.

Keep me posted if they are mate mine went tonight :( so after a new set and had already seen them on awesome and heard there better. Cheers
 

tlewis14

Guest
Go to Awesome GTI, they do a set of four for under £90. Cheaper than the stealers and they look nicer too as they have a red border round the black cap.

Pretty sure they're newer than the D revision too, I'll check the part number (they are OEM VAG parts) tomorrow when working on my car.

that would be tidy if you could mate, just had a look on tint' on A-gti and they look pretty cool in red, sounds good being OE quality but they need to be good as i dont want to be replacing them every week!! :cry: if they check out and you say they are cool il get a set, mays well get a complete spare set at the same time.
 

8bit

Active Member
Feb 11, 2010
3,401
3
Aberdeen
Keep me posted if they are mate mine went tonight :( so after a new set and had already seen them on awesome and heard there better. Cheers

that would be tidy if you could mate, just had a look on tint' on A-gti and they look pretty cool in red, sounds good being OE quality but they need to be good as i dont want to be replacing them every week!! :cry: if they check out and you say they are cool il get a set, mays well get a complete spare set at the same time.

The Awesome GTI ones I got have VAG part number 06C 905 115M. If you did have one go pop after a year just get in touch with Awesome GTI, they will be under warranty.
 

tlewis14

Guest
The Awesome GTI ones I got have VAG part number 06C 905 115M. If you did have one go pop after a year just get in touch with Awesome GTI, they will be under warranty.

had a look on A-GTI and wont supply part number on item, are these any better than the bosch standard originals? still cant believe GMF quoted me £32 inc VAT each!! robbing bas**rds!!
:lol:
if these are guaranteed to fit my car and are better than originals then il buy straight away. they also don't mention anything about any warranty on them, only a returns policy.
 

tlewis14

Guest
had a look on A-GTI and wont supply part number on item, are these any better than the bosch standard originals? still cant believe GMF quoted me £32 inc VAT each!! robbing bas**rds!!
:lol:
if these are guaranteed to fit my car and are better than originals then il buy straight away. they also don't mention anything about any warranty on them, only a returns policy.

any ideas on how to get the clock display to stay up permanently in place of mpg? by the sounds of things mines the only one made without a rattle in the dash:confused:
im trying my best to warm up, cool down........ but for how long each time? its never consistant at the moment, i usually count to 20:)
 

8bit

Active Member
Feb 11, 2010
3,401
3
Aberdeen
Well that's the part number on the ones I got, I guess they could get slightly different revisions if they're buying them in batches. Did you call them to ask? End of the day, if they don't fit your car you can send em back, you have certain rights when buying stuff online.

As for being better than originals, I guess if you had the very first version coilpacks in your car and changed to the latest ones you might notice an improvement in throttle response and idle stability but in general they either work or they don't that's it.

The display in the rev counter should always show whatever it was set to when the engine was switched off. The only exception is if the outside air temp is below 5C it will automatically pop up the temp display, but if you hit either button on the end of the wiper stalk it'll revert to what it was last set to.

Warming up - count to 20 whats, minutes? That should do it, maybe 15 in warmer weather. Cooling down, if you've been giving it some stick then let the car idle for a minute or two before shutdown, or take the last mile or so at low rpm and stay off boost.
 

tlewis14

Guest
Well that's the part number on the ones I got, I guess they could get slightly different revisions if they're buying them in batches. Did you call them to ask? End of the day, if they don't fit your car you can send em back, you have certain rights when buying stuff online.

As for being better than originals, I guess if you had the very first version coilpacks in your car and changed to the latest ones you might notice an improvement in throttle response and idle stability but in general they either work or they don't that's it.

The display in the rev counter should always show whatever it was set to when the engine was switched off. The only exception is if the outside air temp is below 5C it will automatically pop up the temp display, but if you hit either button on the end of the wiper stalk it'll revert to what it was last set to.

Warming up - count to 20 whats, minutes? That should do it, maybe 15 in warmer weather. Cooling down, if you've been giving it some stick then let the car idle for a minute or two before shutdown, or take the last mile or so at low rpm and stay off boost.

i see what you mean, haven't tried phoning yet, haven't had time, but i will the next chance i get. ive tried something i read on a thread somewhere about taking one coil pack out at a time whilst engine running to see if there was one that doesn't effect engine idle, all changed idle when i tried it, so guessing that applies to a coil pack that has completely gone? that makes sense because since ive had car after buying it its been below 5degrees. yea :happy: i meant 20 seconds, i do normally take it easy when nearing home, just need to let it cool down for longer then. thanks for your response.
 

tlewis14

Guest
"D" version 06A 905 115 D standard coils will be as good as any you will get, unless you use 2.0 TFSi ones which will give the option of reliably running larger gaps.


will check these out, need some asap, but not settling for cheap and nasty if it means i get on the road 100% quicker. its killing me not being able to use any boost at all for the moment only letting me get to 3k revs before it starts playing up, ideal for fuel consumption! :rofl:
 

8bit

Active Member
Feb 11, 2010
3,401
3
Aberdeen
"D" version 06A 905 115 D standard coils will be as good as any you will get, unless you use 2.0 TFSi ones which will give the option of reliably running larger gaps.
Try TPS for a decent price http://www.thetradepartsspecialists.co.uk/

I thought the D versions were included in the exchange programme?

i see what you mean, haven't tried phoning yet, haven't had time, but i will the next chance i get. ive tried something i read on a thread somewhere about taking one coil pack out at a time whilst engine running to see if there was one that doesn't effect engine idle, all changed idle when i tried it, so guessing that applies to a coil pack that has completely gone? that makes sense because since ive had car after buying it its been below 5degrees. yea :happy: i meant 20 seconds, i do normally take it easy when nearing home, just need to let it cool down for longer then. thanks for your response.

20 seconds - seriously? The car won't have even started to get warm in that time, 15 or 20 minutes minimum. Stay below about 2500rpm for the first 15 mins before giving it any boost.
 

tlewis14

Guest
I thought the D versions were included in the exchange programme?



20 seconds - seriously? The car won't have even started to get warm in that time, 15 or 20 minutes minimum. Stay below about 2500rpm for the first 15 mins before giving it any boost.

i meant 20 seconds before i pull off :) yea i dont rag cars cold, usualy wait until engine temp has got to optimum temp, 90degrees.
 

lmiller

Boost Junkie!
Aug 9, 2011
527
0
South East Kent
I ordered the coilpacks from awesome gti today. You get a years warrenty on them and at £83.99 a set I don't think thats too bad considering my friend paid £35 to replace one. Often if you only replace one the others follow soon after so better to buy a set and keep the three that work as spares. Put one with your tools in the boot as you never know when they will go and it's a common fault.
 

tlewis14

Guest
I ordered the coilpacks from awesome gti today. You get a years warrenty on them and at £83.99 a set I don't think thats too bad considering my friend paid £35 to replace one. Often if you only replace one the others follow soon after so better to buy a set and keep the three that work as spares. Put one with your tools in the boot as you never know when they will go and it's a common fault.

for price they seem to be good, especially with a years warranty. but with the car being chipped how often can you expect the coils to go?? how quick will they come in post? yeah thats not a bad shout, ive had all mine out and i cant tell visually or by sight if they have gone so will mean all 4 will be in boot.