Remap gone after car in body shop for repairs???

[dangerousdriver]

Can anyone thrown some light on this one.

My car was involved in an accident recently and the car suffered damage to the front and rear drivers side doors and sill.

The car went into the body shop and the repairs carried out but when I collected the car it seemed slow.

At first I thought it was me but after driving it more it is definitely slower.

I called the body shop to see if they plugged in for diagnostics to which I was told no the only thing disconnected was the battery.

Its a Superchips map so and as its a FL Leon I couldn't get a Blufin due to the new ECU's not communicating via the port.

I called Superchips and their reply was just bring it up to Milton Keynes and we'll look at it. Its a long way to go so just wondered if there anything else that anyone might be able to shed some light on.

I heard that as they did some welding this could've caused the ECU to reset or if the battery was disconnected for some days the lithium battery in the ECU may have run out causing the ECU to revert to factory settings.

Thanks for reading

 

[jc_boc]

I have been told that when the battery is disconnected the car will revert back to factory settings. Should be able to get the map put back on by your dealer that did it.

 

[Tfsi_Mike]

As Jase said ^^

My map goes into lockout mode (I just have to enter PIN via cruise stalk) after battery has been disconnected.

REVO reverts to stock settings, doesn't mean you've lost your map. Just needs plugging into an SPS device to re enter your settings.

 

[Pew.]

Is this the same for all models?

I.E my mk4 ibiza cupra, if the battery is disconnect for X amount of time the apr stage 1 map will be lost?

 

[john.s]

I have been told that when the battery is disconnected the car will revert back to factory settings. Should be able to get the map put back on by your dealer that did it.

This is nonsense... the new map is written on the ECU (meaning over the existing factory map). I've not heard of a "cluster ecu" that when loosing power get's the map from another location ...

That is why if you want your old map back, you MUST do a back-up first before chippin'

 

[MJ]

This is nonsense... the new map is written on the ECU (meaning over the existing factory map). I've not heard of a "cluster ecu" that when loosing power get's the map from another location ...

That is why if you want your old map back, you MUST do a back-up first before chippin'

Its 2 different sets of parameters within the software file that can be switched. Not the loss of the file itself it just reverts to stock mode instead of the performance mode when the battery is disconnected. With the likes of Revo it can be switched back on via SPS or by your dealer.

You can flash the actual stock file back on and you lose the performance software, obviously but with the remap file you can switch between the 2 modes which are 2 sets of settings.

With Revo files the ecu can be set to several different modes, it doesn't use different files it just alters the current one.

 

[MJ]

Is this the same for all models?

I.E my mk4 ibiza cupra, if the battery is disconnect for X amount of time the apr stage 1 map will be lost?

it only tends to be later vehicles on can bus protocol.

 

[CJcupra]

When my mothers car ( albeit a high performance saab )went in for a service the garage swapped the ECU back to standard and put ours on the garage owners car. Unfortunatley for them I noticed it straight away and was back in a flash to which they owned up with some persuasion.... Just bare this in mind.

 

[Tfsi_Mike]

This is nonsense... the new map is written on the ECU (meaning over the existing factory map). I've not heard of a "cluster ecu" that when loosing power get's the map from another location ...

That is why if you want your old map back, you MUST do a back-up first before chippin'

It is not nonsense at all.

The remap remains on the ECU it just resets to its base (Stock) settings. Like I said my APR map and many many peoples REVO maps either revert to stock mode or go into lockout mode after disconnecting the batttery. In my case it is just a case of entering my pin number on the cruise stalk (APR feature) and switching my map back to my prefered file (I have 4 files on the ECU stock, Valet, 95ron, 98ron). People with REVO just have to plug back into their handheld SPS+ devive and put their REVO settings in.

One to bear in mind, you can specifically ask the main dealer not to flash / update your factory map if going in for a service. Otherwise you may lose your map and have to go back to your tuner to have it flashed back on.

 

[SteveTDCi]

I've taken the battery off the tt and the map (jabbasport) has always remained ? Is this specific to the Leon chassis ?

 

[john.s]

It is not nonsense at all.

The remap remains on the ECU it just resets to its base (Stock) settings. Like I said my APR map and many many peoples REVO maps either revert to stock mode or go into lockout mode after disconnecting the batttery. In my case it is just a case of entering my pin number on the cruise stalk (APR feature) and switching my map back to my prefered file (I have 4 files on the ECU stock, Valet, 95ron, 98ron). People with REVO just have to plug back into their handheld SPS+ devive and put their REVO settings in.

One to bear in mind, you can specifically ask the main dealer not to flash / update your factory map if going in for a service. Otherwise you may lose your map and have to go back to your tuner to have it flashed back on.

Hmm... here almost no one has a revo/apr map but it is absurd to have to buy the sps. I disconnected the battery 4times in 4years, so loosing the settings every time the battery is disconnected sounds like a pain in the a** ...

Are you sure ALL mk2's are "affected" ? or maybe just the FL ...

 

[jc_boc]

Hmm... here almost no one has a revo/apr map but it is absurd to have to buy the sps. I disconnected the battery 4times in 4years, so loosing the settings every time the battery is disconnected sounds like a pain in the a** ...

Are you sure ALL mk2's are "affected" ? or maybe just the FL ...

Mine is pre FL and buying the SPS switch is not mandatory, it just makes life easier. Alternatively a trip to your local revo dealer and it can quickly be reinstalled, usually FOC

 

[john.s]

Mine is pre FL and buying the SPS switch is not mandatory, it just makes life easier. Alternatively a trip to your local revo dealer and it can quickly be reinstalled, usually FOC

Ok, i've researched... it is specific to the tuner, not the car itself! So yes, with revo/apr it is possible, but with others the settings and maps are there to stay, with or without battery.

 

[dangerousdriver]

Ok, i've researched... it is specific to the tuner, not the car itself! So yes, with revo/apr it is possible, but with others the settings and maps are there to stay, with or without battery.

A call to Superchips tech support confirms that the map is there to stay whether a battery has been disconnected etc.

The modified map is the only one on there and Superchips say there is no fallback should a problem occur.

I've got a legit Vagcom lead so will check the boost pressure readings and see what the expected and actual levels are to see if there any hoses loose.

My car as its stands has an output of 212bhp with 342 nm Torque. I downloaded the iPhone app Dynolicious yesterday which whilst cannot be wholly relied on compared to dedicated GPS logging equipment it does offer reasonable results and was featured on fifth gear.

The app uses the GPS and accelerometer inside the phone to give 0-60, estimated BHP output based on the weight of the car, fuel weight and passenger and cargo weight. I carried out 3 tests and everyone stated the estimated bhp was 180bhp well down on the 212bhp it should be.

I'm really frustrated as I know since the car has come back it is a lot slower and not as responsive.

 

[john.s]

If the dealer did a software update...
Some updates (even component upgrades) are made due to a factory decision, BUT they must inform you that if you want their help you must agree wit the update. Than again, not every guy remembers the procedure or do it by the book.

 

[Donnyboy]

It is not nonsense at all.

The remap remains on the ECU it just resets to its base (Stock) settings. Like I said my APR map and many many peoples REVO maps either revert to stock mode or go into lockout mode after disconnecting the batttery. In my case it is just a case of entering my pin number on the cruise stalk (APR feature) and switching my map back to my prefered file (I have 4 files on the ECU stock, Valet, 95ron, 98ron). People with REVO just have to plug back into their handheld SPS+ devive and put their REVO settings in.

One to bear in mind, you can specifically ask the main dealer not to flash / update your factory map if going in for a service. Otherwise you may lose your map and have to go back to your tuner to have it flashed back on.

Did you recently get the cruise stock enabled? I have APR Stage 1 and was told this wasn't available when I got the map in December?

 

[anthony37]

You don't loose the map when you disconnect the battery from your car. When you disconnect the battery the settings on your ECU flashed with Revo software automatically sets it back to stock B0 T0 F0 but the flash will still be there so not to worry. Having the SPS switch will fix this problem. It's worth while investing in one where this will save you the trip down to your dealer.