PastyWagon Racing Sprint Dates 2007

[RobT]

PastyWagon Racing 2007 Results

Hi

Well after 2006 stopping before it even started, I am hoping for more luck in 2007. This year I have entered the Liverpool Motor Club Speed Championship in Class 3b (Modified Production) and Division 2 (6 rounds). You have to select 6 from a possible 18 and best 5 scores to count. Div 1 (> 6 rounds) is best 9 to count and I have too much other stuff going on this year to do this.

R1 - 28th April, Aintree
Trackday at Aintree 2nd June
R2 - 17th June, Curborough
R3 - 30th June, Aintree
R4/5 - 29/30th July, Loton Park
R6 - 8th Sept, Aintree

At some point there will be a second trackday at Aintree also. Strategy is to focus on tracks I think I can be competitive on - a balance of what suits me and the car and who else usually turns up who is tough (impossible) to beat - there is one guy with a Mk1 golf for eg. who I will never beat at Anglesey so thats why I am missing that out this year.

Costs for this are £36 for a MSA non-race national B speed licence, £10 to join Liverpool motor club and £12 to register for the championships. Each event is around £70 to enter. So its as cheap as motorsport gets - it anyone is interested then pop by at any of the above and have a chat

http://www.liverpoolmotorclub.com/download.htm

Oulton Park Nov 2006

Loton Park 2005 (using ALL of the track )

Ave it

Rob

 

[Craig Senior]

Should be interesting Rob.

Have you thought about taking a trip to the sunny side of the Hills and giving the Pickle a run at Harewood?

 

[old 'uns]

see you @ curby rob, 2 days before i'm away for a month, historic rally ypres. yippeeee!!!

 

[andyj]

Good luck for this year Rob

 

[jenk]

Ill be there at Curborough, good luck for the season

 

[RobT]

well spent the weekend fitting 3 plastic windows to car - front passenger (easy, slips in instead of glass) and rear quarters (not so easy, involved some painting, modding and finally glueing with "Acme dont get this wrong as I'm never coming off again adhesive" aka. sikaflex. Going to do the rear hatch glass when my new tool arrives - bonded window cutter. Quite suprising how much lighter plastic are than glass and then there's the rear quarter rubber seals also which are perhaps 1kg between them.

So happy with the fitting and leaving for 24hrs to fully set, took the pickle out tonight to see if they would blow out "at speed" (on a private test track obviously). So I'm on one of my favourite bits of tarmac, lovely night, no traffic, and heading towards a set of traffic lights, on red, and whats parked up there, waiting, on his own, with clear road ahead.........V10 M5. Gorgeous. So I pulls up behind and gave him a flash......GAME ON. 2 of the longest black lines I have seen on the tarmac PMSL. So I gave chase and was barely able to keep with him, damn those things are fast and fair play he was thrashing the taters off it. He started to get away and then let me catch up i think....great fun, ran together 'at speed' for perhaps 7 miles, made my night. Oh the windows....didn't budge.

Cannot wait for forst race in 2 weeks now.

Ave it

Rob

 

[F2 Stu]

Was you still running the dodgy g'box?

 

[Niall]

Pickle VS. M5 Respekt

 

[RobT]

gearbox is fixed, 4th synchro was busted. And some interesting comments from Mikeanics who rebuilt it for me - Mike says there's too much endfloat in the input shaft, so much so that the end of the shaft is just kissing the inside of the tin cover on the end of the box, taken the paint off it but not much more. Always thought the box was quite noisy and confirmation by a mate who's transmission specialist for JCB that this is likely to be due to excessive endfloat. Now the box works fine now its rebuilt but this should have been better - Stealth built this box originally for me and it hasn't done that many miles since - clearly they didn't set the endfloat right when they built it - shabby lads, wont be using you again !

 

[RobT]

Aintree Report, R1, yesterday Sat 28th April

Fantastic day for my first round of the Liverpool and Chester MC Speed Champs 2007 held at the historic Aintree Circuit. The day was run by Liverpool MC and I have to say they are an A1 outfit, pukka organisation and very very slick. Over 160 cars entered and perhaps 50 of them Caterhams as this is a round of the Caterham Academy. Day started out overcast but dry and got sunnier after lunch turning into a scorcher in the afternoon.

Its been a while since I've been out having had engine issues last year and thus the order of the day was take it easy and find way back into this sprinting lark again, if you have never tried it, its a damn sight harder than it looks, no warmup, and have to go as hard as you can from cold with very little practise.

Very good class entry in 3b (mod prod 1400-2000cc), 7 cars, numbers 33-39 being fancy looking lotus elise with big wing on back and slicks and sounding very tasty, ex-circuit racer saxo cup, very light looking alfa sprint, very light looking red 205 with LAD Mi16 engine, me, very very light (750kg) and very aero-modified 8V black 205 on tb's and massive slicks, circuit racer Xr2.

Any of the above could have been serious competition, they all looked very tidy but suspecting lotus and black pug as main competition. Previous best 1.5yrs ago 53.09.

P1, brand new shiny front slicks, rear slicks that have been in shed and unused for 1.5yrs, rear damper set to unknown level since adjuster broke off couple days earlier, setup as per previous day at aintree despite wide track front mods

(all times in car order) 52, 60.03, 65.33, 54.94, 54.57, 56.98, 61.07 so mine was 54.57....felt ok, very slippy on fronts and back let go exiting second bend

P2. Left everything as P1. 51.25, 57.88, 60.71, 54.18, 53.45, 53.77, 60.71 so mine was 53.45. Much better, more confidence, still sliding around too much though, snatched a gearchange, lotus way ahead and pugs very close, need to turn the wick up !

T1. Dropped tyre pressures 2 psi both ends, day getting warmer. 50.76, 57.25, 59.78, 53.84, 52.71, 53.78, 60.28 so mine was 52.71. Kept it all much calmer and smoother, no rushed gearchanges, and personal best....easily as well, loads more to come, getting some space to pugs.

Lunch.

T2. Setup as T1. 52.97, 58.02, 60.45, 54.04, 52.48, 60.68, 60.44 so mine was 52.48. Very pleased, calm and relaxed, car was really nicely balanced, very progressive, bit slidy but not much, personal best again. Doubt will be caught now by pugs and lotus is way away.

T3. Setup as T1. 86.55, 54.74, 59.62, 54.07, 52.71, 53.24, 59.68 so mine was 52.71. Didn't really try at all, very casual, and still beat last events personal best where i was driving the arse off the car.

So overall very pleased, 2nd place in class, trophy, behind very quick lotus and ahead of cheese eaters, the black one being a champion last year so thats not an insignificant scalp. Car is MUCH quicker than previous, 0.61 secs better than previous pb and thats a lot sprinting, loads more to come from this, easily another second I would say, and very nicely balanced with its new setup. May help when I get a damper that I can set also LOL. Good day all round.

Ave it

Rob

 

[ibizacupra]

nice one mate

pasty 'Ave it'


widetrack, bigger slicks all working more or less it seems apart from the slidey comments.

well done on the trophy

 

[motorhead]

Nice one will come and have a look next time

 

[Craig Senior]

Good result Rob.

I'm sure I've seen the Elise running at Harewood.

Some Pickle pics:
http://www.whatnonegatives.com/2007/070428_aintree/37_HTML/index.htm

 

[RobT]

cheers guys.

Bill - I think the slidey thing was new/old tyres that have been in shed for 1.5yrs - it got a lot better through the day. Looking at the tyres last night, slight shift in geometry needed over old setup, little bit more camber on nearside. Scrub radius very evident on 1st run of the day as was very dusty and you can see a ring round the tyre at point of max load - its about 1-2" in from outside edge, even with this wide setup and ET20 rims, showing the massive difference in geometry with VR6 uprights/wishbones vs. 16V type.

Craig - great snaps m8, were you there then ? whats the scoop re. getting a few of these ?

Cheers

Rob

 

[Craig Senior]

Craig - great snaps m8, were you there then ? whats the scoop re. getting a few of these ?

No I wasn't there, I may have to try and Marshal there one day though. Whatnonegatives are the official photographers at Harewood and they usually cover some of the other sprints and races locally which is why I checked.

If you contact either Stuart or Sally through the site they will be able to sort you out with some decent pictures.

 

[ibizacupra]

cheers guys.

Bill - I think the slidey thing was new/old tyres that have been in shed for 1.5yrs - it got a lot better through the day. Looking at the tyres last night, slight shift in geometry needed over old setup, little bit more camber on nearside. Scrub radius very evident on 1st run of the day as was very dusty and you can see a ring round the tyre at point of max load - its about 1-2" in from outside edge, even with this wide setup and ET20 rims, showing the massive difference in geometry with VR6 uprights/wishbones vs. 16V type.

Rob

What camber you running now mate?
Mines currently 1.5' -ve and has 4.5' caster

 

[RobT]

different tyres dont forget - crossplies so they need to be more vertical than radials as a rule - currently about 0.5-ve but maybe 1-ve would be better on nearside, 0.5-ve fine on offside though and actually maybe a touch less

not measured castor recently so I guess mine is similar to yours - 4.5 is GOOD, more like 1 std

 

[ibizacupra]

aye forgot your slicks were crossplies.
would love the grip they give on mine.

 

[goble]

bill you running adjusable tca's?

 

[ibizacupra]

no, not allowed by my regs