NEW Key... Good price on ebay.. ithink... need advice please

[ibiza_95]

just bought a mk2 ibiza and it has the blade type key, it only came with one key so i want another just incase anythig goes wrong... ive found these on ebay which i think are at a very good price cos theres some on there going for a lot more!?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=300056519115&rd=1&rd=1

i just need to know if this is the same type of key i will have... it looks the same but just want to be sure, also theres a key blank on ebay which i would also need to get

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-GALAXY-R...4QQihZ019QQcategoryZ21654QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

but then how much do you reckon to get the key cut to the shape i need
thanks

 

[gazjones]

they are the same blades as in the flip keys that alot of people have been buying and you can have them cut at places like timpsons or a good key cutting place

 

[ibiza_95]

so both of them would be a match for the key i have... looks exactly the same. sorry for being vague.

and do you know how much they may charge to cut it?

 

[gazjones]

i paid 5 quid to cut it there should be a code on the key like haa or something think thats the profile of the blade

 

[ibiza_streg]

What age is your ibiza? as they changed the key from an Infrared key to a radio frequency key, I think it was about 97? They changed it along with the type of blade so thats how you should be able to tell the difference!

The key you have bought is a very good price compared to alot of others on ebay, i have just bought a brand new Audi flip key with new blade for £11.45 including postage! I am under the impression I can get it to work with my mk2 Ibiza, if not I have a really cool spare key!! My remote like the one you have bought doesn't work anyway so I am used to using the key!

 

[ibiza_95]

i havent actually bought it yet and 1s already sold..... i emailed the guy with just the blade to see what code it says on the blade itself, cos the guy that poste above said it shuld say. HAA... And thats what it says on mine.

I dont know if mine is infrared or not, but its a V reg, if they changed it, i guess mine would be radio?

Thanks

 

[ibiza_streg]

yours will be radio and that key is HAA you can tell by the shape! I want my flip key to arrive so I can see if it works!

 

[Hayz]

New keys from SEAT are really expensive. I have one of the laser cut keys with the imbolisher chip it was like, £70 without the remote central locking buttons and £150 with.. lol

Mad Apparently they have to program stuff.. who knows.. I wouldnt get one from ebay but thats just me

 

[Chemical Al]

i bought a new remote/key for my mk4 Ibiza (non flip) was £63 supplied and programmed by a dealer (Bay Horse Motors in Hereford) i thought that was quite good

 

[ibiza_95]

ok, ive bought both the above, lets hope that its A. Radio, and not infra red, and B. Works, and doesnt cost me a fortune to have cut

 

[ibiza_streg]

Just got my audi flip key! Had it cut for £6.50 but the bloke at the shop said it would not start the engine as it was not coded! I was thinking it doesnt matter as my car has no immobiliser, the bloke in the shop was right! He said that it will work once he's coded it, which is good but £35. But I also have to call seat up and get some sort of ecu code or something? Does anyone know the code or is it specific to each car!

ibiza_95 this blatently means you will have to get yours coded as well!
sorry!

 

[Chemical Al]

specific to each car (SKC, Secret Key Code) you could probably find an auto locksmith that would do it cheaper

 

[ibiza_95]

soooooooo, whats this all about cos i didnt understand a whole lot that was just said... you mean ill have to get the imobiliser chip changed or something?
Bugger... didnt eventthink about that

 

[Chemical Al]

right,

you buy a new key (remote one)
you need to...

1) get it cut
2) program it to lock/unlock
3) get it coded to the immobilizer

steps 1 and 2 very easy

step 3 you need someone to read your immobiliser to get the login code to program new keys or ask seat to get you login code from HQ

some people get around step 3 by swapping there transponder out of a working key into there new fob (careful they are V. fragile if you do this)

hope that is clearer

 

[ibiza_95]

i get it now, and your telling me that its going to cost me 30 pounds to get the codes put into my new key!
thatll be a 60+ pounds key ive just bought

 

[Chemical Al]

if you go to an auto locksmith they will do all of part 3 for a lot less than a dealer would

 

[ibiza_95]

cheers guys, ill have to look into this then, if i leave it a month or so it wont seem like ive spent so much on it
lol

 

[jonmk2]

Hi, I am in the same situation as you at the moment. For anyone to code in the key, you need the SKC from Seat. It is needed to access the ECU. I was planning on getting the code from Seat and coding it in myself with VAGCom, but I rang Seat this morning and they wanted £58.75 just to tell me the SKC. I got a key with a transponder cut from an auto locksmith for £25 which I thought was reasonable.

 

[AndyC567]

I have been all through this as my missus drove over the spare key for my Tolly..

Chemical Al's post about the 3 steps above, really sums it all up..

Steps 1 and 2 are fairly straight forward, it is step 3 which is the real hassle..

If you don't already have a spare key, you will not be able to nick the Transponder from it, so will need a new one to put in your new key..

The was a guy on here selling them, and I got one which worked absolutly fine..

Failing that, you can get them from here:
http://www.hickleyvaltone.com/diagnostics/keys_list.php?range=transponder

My Tolly used the Crypto ID48 transponder..

Once this is fitted in the key, you will need to get the SKC code to code it to the Immobiliser..

Either a trip to the dealer and pay lots of notes, or try and do it yourself like I did..

You need to extract the immobiliser Id from the car, and anyone with vagcom can do this for you..
If you are ever anywhere near Milton Keynes, then I can do it for you.

Given the immobiliser Id, you need to give this to SEAT and request the SKC code to match.
I got mine from the dealer that supplied the car, and they were very forthcomming..

Once you got the SKC, back to VAGcom and add the key following the procedure:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/Immo3-key-matching.html

Again, anyone with Vagcom can help you here as long as you have the SKC.
Can't do plop all without that, so maybe best to persue that before you even think about keys and transponders !

All in all, my flip key, codded and working cost me 25 quid !! Bargain..

Any more info, then please shout..

 

[ibiza_95]

My Tolly used the Crypto ID48 transponder..

Nice one mate, how did you knwo that this is what transponder you needed?
It all seems very complicated, although have never used vagcom, so i catually dont know how complex it is

Ive go the steps 1, and 2 sorted as mentioned above and all is peachy so far. the key needs cutting and ill have to buy a new transponder... tut.

How do i find out what transponder i need? as there is two quoted for 1998 onwards, and mines 99'

Ill have to get in touch with someone with vag com round where i live, i passed through MK the other week i think on the way back from kent to leeds... or i think i did anyways

Will send out a thread about people with vag com in my area, but any more info would be great... all seems a lot of hassle, i might just take the transponder out of the key and hide it in the car so the imobiliser is by-passed, then just wire in a seperate unit for an imobiliser...

Or maybe not