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Which Leon Cupra version do you own?


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boltonredgt

Active Member
Mar 25, 2014
147
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Bolton
How is the maual compared to the DSG, do you think it sounds the same in Cupra mode??

Interior sound is the same. As it had only 5 miles on the clock when I picked it up and I am a great believer in bedding in engines I have not floored it and done a quick gear change to see if you get that fart type noise you get with the DSG on change up. Though last night the misses went for a rapid over take from 20mph in fourth and it flew and that was on about half throttle. Past the car doing just under 40.
 

rocket_26_

Newbie
Jul 29, 2004
66
0
Lincoln
Looks nice in black. Ive never had a car from brand new prior to the one on order, what would be the recommended miles to run the engine in
 
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boltonredgt

Active Member
Mar 25, 2014
147
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Bolton
Quote from manual
A new vehicle should be run in over a distance of 1500 km (1000 miles). For
the first 1000 km (600 miles) the engine speed should not exceed 2/3 of
the maximum permissible engine speed. In doing so, do not accelerate at
full throttle and do not drive with a trailer! From 1000 to 1500 km (600 to
1000 miles) you can gradually increase the engine rpm and road speed.
During its first few hours of running, the internal friction in the engine is
greater than later on when all the moving parts have bedded down.
How the vehicle is driven for the first 1500 km (1000 miles) influences the
future engine performance. Subsequently, also drive at a moderate rate, especially
when the engine is still cold: this will lead to less engine wear and
tear and will prolong its useful life.
You should also avoid driving with the engine speed too low. Change down
to a lower gear when the engine no longer runs “smoothly”. If the engine
revs too much, cut fuel injection to protect the engine. 
 

rocket_26_

Newbie
Jul 29, 2004
66
0
Lincoln
Thanks for that. The side skirts look nice, finish the car off nicely, I am considering getting some for my car. It arrives in the UK on Monday so wont be long.
 
Mar 13, 2011
697
0
Quote from manual
A new vehicle should be run in over a distance of 1500 km (1000 miles). For
the first 1000 km (600 miles) the engine speed should not exceed 2/3 of
the maximum permissible engine speed. In doing so, do not accelerate at
full throttle and do not drive with a trailer! From 1000 to 1500 km (600 to
1000 miles) you can gradually increase the engine rpm and road speed.
During its first few hours of running, the internal friction in the engine is
greater than later on when all the moving parts have bedded down.
How the vehicle is driven for the first 1500 km (1000 miles) influences the
future engine performance. Subsequently, also drive at a moderate rate, especially
when the engine is still cold: this will lead to less engine wear and
tear and will prolong its useful life.
You should also avoid driving with the engine speed too low. Change down
to a lower gear when the engine no longer runs “smoothly”. If the engine
revs too much, cut fuel injection to protect the engine. 

I know it's a hotly debated topic, but I'm no believer in running in with modern engines. I certainly won't let it labour at low revs and high load (worst thing you can do), but there's no reason not to let the engine spin to the red line from brand new. Have always treated my motorcycles in this way and have never had any mechanical issues with any of them. I put 45k miles on a ZX9r in two years (from new) and it had no mechanical problems whatsoever. It was caned to within an inch of its life from the minute it left the showroom. There are some schools of thought which preach you will get better power out of an engine by working it hard from day 1.
 

jonjay

50 Years of 911
Jun 27, 2005
5,843
1
Essex
I know it's a hotly debated topic, but I'm no believer in running in with modern engines. I certainly won't let it labour at low revs and high load (worst thing you can do), but there's no reason not to let the engine spin to the red line from brand new. Have always treated my motorcycles in this way and have never had any mechanical issues with any of them. I put 45k miles on a ZX9r in two years (from new) and it had no mechanical problems whatsoever. It was caned to within an inch of its life from the minute it left the showroom. There are some schools of thought which preach you will get better power out of an engine by working it hard from day 1.
Agreed.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/general-advice/running-in-a-new-car.html

I think applying some common sense in driving is the key for the first thousand miles. After that the car should have bedded in nicely.

UPDATE! I forgot to add that most cars are thrashed from factory anyway. I know for fact that Audi and Porsche run there cars / rev the nuts from then as they finish the production line. In fact from memory they do this with the Corvettes in a tour of the factory I saw online. However, from speaking to engineers in the past all machinery needs a bedding in time.
 
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simonali

Active Member
Apr 3, 2014
834
36
Wiltshire
When I once took a Civic Type R for a test drive (I didn't buy one, though) the salesman encouraged me to rev it out, despite it only having 400 odd miles on the clock and told me they get redlined on a test track in Swindon straight off the production line.
 
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Apr 15, 2009
857
0
Wolverhampton
I agree cant be doing with running them in, I find they run far better if driven hard from the start. Cars that have been driven slow drive pants in future life.
 

Seastormer

Cupra Leon VZ2 300/CBF1000
Apr 25, 2014
5,266
811
69
Edinburgh (Scotland)
I have never bought a demo, but drove plenty, and years back when getting my car serviced as the dealer stayed near me I took the car to his house and he gave me the demo he was using at the time, and he took my car to garage (as it was 40 miles away in the borders). He told me that my cars where always smoother, quicker and faster than the same but newer demo's, as I had ran them in to his advice which was much the same as you guys have been saying. So those demo's that folk thought were ok, were actually not so, but without comparing back to back as I did you would never have known.
 

boltonredgt

Active Member
Mar 25, 2014
147
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Bolton
There seems to be a misunderstanding of running in. It does not mean going slow not using high revs, Constantly changing the loads helps the piston ring/cylinder liner bed in more effeciently. Thraching the hell out of them constantly while new only means the rings bed in at heavy engine loads and is a poor seal at low loads and driving like a pedestrian has the opposite effect. Basically drive it normally, that is how you intend to drive it.
 
Mar 13, 2011
697
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There seems to be a misunderstanding of running in. It does not mean going slow not using high revs, Constantly changing the loads helps the piston ring/cylinder liner bed in more effeciently. Thraching the hell out of them constantly while new only means the rings bed in at heavy engine loads and is a poor seal at low loads and driving like a pedestrian has the opposite effect. Basically drive it normally, that is how you intend to drive it.

That's not exactly how your excerpt from the manual describes running in though. I've never done this (followed the what it says in manual) in the last 15 years anyway. I always use the car / bike quite hard from the start, avoiding letting the engine labour but rev'ing it freely (to the redline occasionally) whenever able. Not constantly caning it, but I don't drive it any differently to how I would a higher mileage engine. Aside from not letting it load in a high gear that is.

The manual prescribes adhering to a rev limit / throttle opening limit which I don't follow with my vehicles. Each to their own though.
 

boltonredgt

Active Member
Mar 25, 2014
147
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Bolton
Remember this is from the SEAT manual. The are going to err towards the ultra safe so they do not want to get any warranty claims. I did not say I do what is written I just answered the question.
 

Rydale13

Active Member
Apr 20, 2014
55
0
Picking mine up tomorrow, can't wait! Ordered a manual but can't help thinking I should of ordered the DSG!

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