Like a totally different machine

[Al]

hey horace, i have a 2.0tfsi fr with bluefin stage 1. I was goin to buy a second hand carbonio for £100 from a guy that had it on his mk5 golf gti. would this make it run lean, and if so can i just get another map to fix it? i should probably ask superchips I know, but thought itd just be easier to ask you seein as your on this thread

If it was me, I would keep the £100 and add it to a proper intake. The Carbonio gives negligable gains over a upgraded panel filter alone. That being said, if you cant stretch that far, i would just spend the £40 or so and buy an upgraded panel filter. Remember the engine cover is the restrictive part of the intake.

For what its worth, my car was logged with a full Milltek, Stock Map and Carbonio. When I had checked on the rollers, the guy at the rolling road said it was slightly lean. However, he said the same thing when it was 100% stock too.

 

[Al]

Fancy a swap?

Maybe

 

[Al]

i think people are getting anxious for no real reason here.
swapping the oem intake for any other cai will be very unlikely to cause any issues itself. the car would need to be running lean in the first place. a stock or any reputable map should be ok.

Agreed.

However as the limitation on the TFSi is fuelling, adding more air to a car that is running higher boost (remapped) will mean that more fuel is required. Logging and map adjustment would certainly make sure that there are no issues though. Non remapped cars should be no problem as the ECU will not be asking for the extra 10 Bar or so of fuel.

For what its worth, given my time again, my money would go on a fuel pump upgrade before an intake upgrade despite having done the opposite myself (bear in mind that mine was done a long time ago at the point where fuelling issues on the TFSi engine just being discovered).

 

[beeko85]

nice one horace, thanks for that.
if i was going all out for a proper intake, it would have to be the forge twintake, or that itg thing that warren cox did a review on a while back, both of which are likely to be pretty expensive. although im interested to see what kez is using here. as for he fuel pump, theres a few different choice available now so have to do a bit of research on that, certainly dont think ill be going for the apr one at that price, again warren has done a good write up on the one he went for.
maybe a stupid question here though, is there not a vag fuel pump that works better than ours do? i mean, what about the audi rs4, its a massive engine, twin turbo and about twice as powerful from stock, so surely its oem pump would work in our cars, no?

 

[kezFR07]

Il put a pic of it on horaces facebook and maybe he can upload it on here it's just a copy of a k&n typhoon mate I took the panell filter out of the engine cover so that's now empty and the pipe that goes into the front grill to the engine cover I replaced with a pipe that came with the cone and it's just got the cone sat on the end. Went to halfords got a cold air feed and put one end down near my fog light sucking air up and the other end next to the cone simple haha

 

[kezFR07]

when you say you got 31mpg is that full flat out foot to the floor or is that town driving or a roads?
i can get 30 + mpg in my cupra no problem but not with my foot to the floor or stuck in a jam where a 10 mile journey takes an hour.

A bit of a roads at 60 and a few at 40 pal it was around 32mpg best i've had in the leon is 37mpg, it was just sticking to the speed limit at 6th gear in 60 and 5th in 40.

 

[chrisboyle999]

maybe a stupid question here though, is there not a vag fuel pump that works better than ours do?

not a stupid question at all.
the new cupra r has one fitted from the factory. why dont you find out about it and let us all know. (ive got a hpfp otherwise i'd be asking myself)

 

[Al]

not a stupid question at all.
the new cupra r has one fitted from the factory. why dont you find out about it and let us all know. (ive got a hpfp otherwise i'd be asking myself)

Someone already asked David at Seremotors, but there is no detail of the fuel pump that is fitted to the Cupra R yet. If it has the same form factor as the fuel pump in the Cupra BWJ engine, and the camshafts in that engine are the same as the BWJ engine, it would be an excellent and cheap OEM replacement for the fuel pump in the early TFSI engines as the OEM pump for the BWA/BWJ are the same and cost approx £140 as memory serves.

 

[beeko85]

yeah that sounds good horace, might hang on a while then and see what happens with that one, would definately perfer to go down any possible oem route than an aftermarket one

 

[Al]

Here are the pics noted above

First thing I noticed was that the stock engine cover is still there, and that is the biggest single restriction. You should throw that in the bin and have an intake tube added in its place for best gains....

 

[kezFR07]

Yeh but that means cuting the engine cover and that doesn't it and ££ haha what do you reckon then?

 

[Al]

Hopefully you removed the panel filter from within the engine cover to avoid air being filtered twice?

The only thing I would be a bit concerned about is that having had my engine cover off and inspecting it, there are quite a lot of perforations around it that dust etc could get in to if the panel filter was not there.

Also, if you look at the route the air has to move around to get to the MAF and turbo, the restrictions are all still in place.

Being honest, I am not sure that there would be much of a gain from that set up other than more noise although it would be very interesting to know if there was any kind of gain available from it

 

[kezFR07]

The panel filters gone haha if there are perforations il check and tape them up. Well it does feel a lot more responsive and smoother though so I'd say it worked, how could it be better then by removing the engine cover and replacing with a pipe? Where can you get them from? Cheers mate

 

[Al]

Thats whats sold with the other kits. You could probably make one to be fair like someone else did on here. You would have to ensure that the MAF and DV were accomodated in to it though.

 

[kezFR07]

Think I might leave it il get it rr'd someday and see, well it's ok for £60 I think