Heatsoak

[Rick-24]

Well as it bin hot this week ive found that on the way home from work when its hot, my car feels slow, ive a got forge fmic and blue flame full system, still on standard map tho and turbo, surely i shudnt be getting heatsoak wiv the fmic on, when feeling under the bonnet the engine feel mega hot, yet my temp gauge reads 90' and never goes up, (touch wood).... and ideas?

 

[cupra-c_ya]

you got vag com to see if anything shows up matey, fault codes?

unsure wether the forge fmic will totally eliminate heat soak tho?

 

[Rick-24]

yes but ive not checked it latey... something i need to do

 

[ibizacupra]

yes.. slower when hot.
slow running in traffic? hot to touch inlet manifold?

considered something like an insulator gasket?

 

[cupra-c_ya]

maybe see if anything comes up on vag com, with the hot weather most turbo cars will suffer the old heat soak, sat in traffic does not help either.

when the cold weather comes it feels like you have been re flashed with the software.

How long you had the fmic? is this the first summer with it on, if not then you should know how it deals with the hot weather so might be something else......

bill, did you sort out your broadband matey (sorry for going off topic)

 

[Rick-24]

yep uve hit the spot bill.... slow when bin in traffic then accelerating it feels like it bogging down, and yes hot inlet mainfold.......what an insulator gasket when its at home? lol

 

[jetsetjimbo]

It goes between the inlet manifold and the block to cut down on the transfer of heat between the two.

 

[flashbsd]

bill do you sell the insulator gaskets? is there any issue with heat being held on the head instead?

 

[Damo]

I'm not sure there's much you can do apart from aquamist or similar.
FMIC can't cool the air lower than ambient so if it's 30C outside it will feel sluggish. Bear in mind that in winter, intake temps may reach 30c with FMIC. In summer this may result in intake temps going over 40c. Haven't got VAGcom so have no real proof but I suppose it's just common sense, although my sense isn't common so I may be wrong, lol.

 

[David_smith_909]

yes.. slower when hot.
slow running in traffic? hot to touch inlet manifold?

considered something like an insulator gasket?

how much do you do them for bill? (insulator gaskets)

 

[ibizacupra]

bill do you sell the insulator gaskets? is there any issue with heat being held on the head instead?

I do sell em.... concidentally.

no ill effects from insulating inlet manifold. the insulator 'delays' in inevitable heat soak from conducted heat from the cylinder head into the inlet manifold, where the engine inlet air temp sits. (sat in a hot oven)

slow speed running in traffic etc, been parked etc will always heatsoak into anything which can absorb the heat.... metal inlet manifold on hot cylinder head for example.

slow moving traffic will allow this heat to convince the air inlet temp sensor the incoming air is very hot (>60'C not uncommon) where as it is'nt that hot really, but the sensor is sat in an oven and throttle opening and airflow is low in these conditions so it does'nt even get much of a cooling breeze to tell it otherwise.. ECU thinks.... blimey its hot... and configures accordingly.

£35 insulator gasket delays this onset, with inlet mani's air temp sensor.



regards

bill

 

[David_smith_909]

Is this otherwise known as a evosheild?

 

[Jonzy]

yup

 

[David_smith_909]

Ordered !

 

[ibizacupra]

Is this otherwise known as a evosheild?

kind of...

These are'nt EVOshield, I do these but have run out of smallport versions, only got largeport left at the mo.

They are the same type of phenolic material, do the same job, and have been made for me.

Here for details & pricing (whilst its still this low from current batch)

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=988285&postcount=14

 

[flashbsd]

sold! that and my oil roder i never did! will contact you early next week.

Are they a bastid to fit? or could i just lift it off enough to slip the new gasket in?

 

[Simon L]

The manifold has to come off totally as the gasket fits over the studs.