DSG reliability?

[Syphon]

UK configurator for Cupra 300 ST 4drive shows 7 speed DSG.

Edit - to be exact it shows 7-speed-DSG in large bold letters however in the small print it shows 6 speed. Nothing new for SEAT.co.uk to show conflicting info on the same pages.

"2.0 TSI 4Drive 300 PS 7-speed DSG-auto
Petrol / 6 Speed Gearbox DSG-Auto / 4Drive"

UK Car spec sent to dealers shows all CUPRA 300 models as 6 speed DSG.

 

[seatgraham]

That makes sense, Syphon. I originally saw the 7 speed DSG and didn't spot the other text.

I'm sure I've read 7 speed somewhere else too but again it could be a misprint.

 

[Cupra Belfast]

As have I.

I believe the 10 speed is due for the MK4 Leon cupra, MK8 Golf R etc.

 

[CRNeo]

I believe the 10 speed is due for the MK4 Leon cupra, MK8 Golf R etc.

I thought they were dropping the 10sp DSG?

 

[Love-Cupra]

Dropped

I thought they were dropping the 10sp DSG?

Indeed also same information I have found on the net :
Devolpment of the 10 speed DSG is dropped, as to save on R&D costs.

Love the DSG, but rather would like an 8 speed, not looking foreward to a 10 speeds - also
not for any car passengers.

 

[seatgraham]

Indeed also same information I have found on the net :

Devolpment of the 10 speed DSG is dropped, as to save on R&D costs.



Love the DSG, but rather would like an 8 speed, not looking foreward to a 10 speeds - also

not for any car passengers.

What's the relevance of passengers?


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[Love-Cupra]

What's the relevance of passengers?


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Relevance being following:
I can influence DSG by applying throttle, or ease on that, so driver does know when
to expect an auto gear-shift or even will use the Manual mode.
Passengers can only await this, meaning when pushing the car a bit more it will lead to discomfort
or even (kids) motion sickness.

 

[Lentäjä]

Ive heard that dsg gearboxes can suffer from mechatronic unit failure, is this a common thing?

Im thinking of getting Cupra 290 and would prefer a dsg if they are a reliable gearbox?

Would not buy any with my own money if not under factory warranty.
Have seen many many broken DSG / s-tronic boxes on my employer leasing fleet.

 

[Sonofzelda]

This thread seems to confirm the wisdom of opting for manual - which also keeps the left hand out of trouble!

 

[8cylinder]

My opinions on dsg.......

In warranty yes.
Out of warranty no.

 

[matthab]

My opinions on dsg.......

In warranty yes.
Out of warranty no.

Even so Seats good will can save you money + the cost of refurbs and even new mechatronic units are coming down in price.

Like all new tech it will cost a bomb for a short period.

 

[Perfect_g]

My opinions on dsg.......

In warranty yes.
Out of warranty no.

That makes absolutely no sense to me...

The dsg boxes are proven and have been around for quite some time now. The pleasure of the box on the daily commute is second to none and the instant shifts when pushing it is fantastic.

Is a manual contributing further to the driving experience when really going for it? Yes it is, but let the individual significance of that increase in driver involvement be the reason for the decision and not some fantasies about dsg's not being reliable...


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[cupra_ahhh]

I agree. My next car will have DSG, but all I used to think about is "what if it breaks out of warranty?". Taking into consideration the amount of these boxes out there probably getting totally abused by some, and not by others, surely the chances of them going wrong are probably in the same ball park as manuals?

Don't think about what might happen, think about the convenience, speed and smoothness of having one. If you want a manual, go for it, if you want a DSG, get a DSG.

 

[8cylinder]

That makes absolutely no sense to me...

The dsg boxes are proven and have been around for quite some time now. The pleasure of the box on the daily commute is second to none and the instant shifts when pushing it is fantastic.

Is a manual contributing further to the driving experience when really going for it? Yes it is, but let the individual significance of that increase in driver involvement be the reason for the decision and not some fantasies about dsg's not being reliable...


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I have a lot of experience within the vag dealer network and stand by my opinion.

 

[Sonofzelda]

"Is a manual contributing further to the driving experience when really going for it?"

Ahhh.....Definitely! But aren't we straying off topic?

 

[Love-Cupra]

Off topic

"Is a manual contributing further to the driving experience when really going for it?"

Ahhh.....Definitely! But aren't we straying off topic?

No, most definitely a manual stick is not contributing at all.
It is all (and only) in the mind of the beholder.


Following short reasons :
Take a look at F1 sport, all on auto stick which is not mandatory but the best solution.
The old system as we known from after WW2, yes truly we can see not sporty.
DSG will shift gears (up or down) in an eyeblink, and doing this without losing traction
or going down in rev's. Meaning one can safely shift gear also in cornering.
This was developed/patented by Porsche (with Borg-Warner), as PDK, we can all agree to them
as producing sports cars.
Also faster times in accelerations, to any speed for that matter.

Apart from this, the DSG makes a better car; as a total.
With the DSG it is much more a multi purpose vehicle, comfy when needed (traffic jams or city
use) as well as sporty when possible.
Also interaction/communication with an ACC and the new traff/jam assist is better.


LASTLY, and on topic, my last car was the Golf-6 GTI a with manual stick.
In 4 years one repair, yes indeed a new clutch.....(Can hear the comment flowing in: My driving
to be blamed, but according VW an error in producing this.


Love to drive with the DSG, only disadvantage I can cough-up is the higher price for purch/maintc. So if this is in Your budget, go for it !
But bear in mind that IF a good Stage1 (or higher) tuning is in the pipeline, the DSG will need to be worked on also.

 

[Sonofzelda]

Oops...

...misinterpreted Perfect_g's post.

You're right about my mind though!