difference between fr & cupra (petrol)

[helen123]

Hello all, I am new to this site.

Considering getting a used fr petrol (about 04)...just want to know what the mean difference is between the fr and cupra (mechanical wise)?

Im am thinking to chip it straight away to gain about 190bhp. Can I just do this with revo & not bother with other mods like exhaust, new cams, mess around with ignition, fuel, etc?

around £600 is fine.

I want to tune it so that I can get a wallop of power around 3k rpm. Also, what those switchable setting so that when i want to drive normally can be fuel efficient and switch setting (mapping on ecu) when wish to

thanks...any advice would be nice

 

[vwpologti]

get a tdi!

 

[helen123]

don't want a diesel...too slow

 

[m0rk]

Considering getting a used fr petrol (about 04)...just want to know what the mean difference is between the fr and cupra (mechanical wise)?

Brakes/wheels/suspension stiffness - the Cupra also has a big front mount intercooler

However, the FR will be cheaper to buy/insure/maintain - and will remap to more than a std cupra

 

[vwpologti]

don't want a diesel...too slow

diesel to slow?

have you been in a remaped diesel????

a 190bhp tdi would eat a 190bhp petrol!

 

[gazjones]

cupra has 4 pot 312mm brakes , fr has 288mm, front mounted intercooler on cupra not fr, cupra has esp only an option on fr's but engine harware is the same and fully tunned will give the same power, revo map is switchable and adjustable. it will be cheaper to get o4 plate fr 20vt and start from there

 

[m0rk]

a 190bhp tdi would eat a 190bhp petrol!

Don't drag this one down.....

but you should end that with "in some circumstances"

 

[vwpologti]

Don't drag this one down.....

but you should end that with "in some circumstances"

yeah true! but i think tdi is the way to go

 

[vwpologti]

in the wet! thats about all!

 

[helen123]

thanks for your prompt replies,

so, which tuning option / tuning company to go for? like i said, want a wallop of power.

How does a chip alter the max power? run on more boost? But, I would a chip be reliable? would it not strain engine parts because i've not upgraded parts. THanks

 

[gazjones]

no point in chips just remaps. engine internals are fine for tuning on the standard turbo. you can get lots of torque low down mines rather like that ill post some vids to show what its like running 240bhp and 275ftlb torque
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/gazjones1/videos/?action=view&current=video-0016.flv thats 0 to 60 and on to about 75
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/gazjones1/videos/?action=view&current=video-0003-1.flv
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/gazjones1/videos/?action=view&current=video-0015.flv thats in 5th gear

 

[helen123]

sorry, i mean remap not chip....how does it achieve the increase in power? more boost?whats the most i can up to before requiring to make changes to other mechanically things.

 

[gazjones]

basically more boost yet and adjustments to timing. a normal remap with nothing else will see about 205bhp. and the most the turbo will make is 240 roughly but you need exhaust intercooler induction all doing

 

[helen123]

what colour for car, red, black or grey..?

did you fit the boost gauge yourself? where did you buy it from?

 

[gazjones]

yep fitted it myself. was it a white one you have seen? got new one from awesome gti in manchester.
all the colours have there good points i like red obviously.

 

[helen123]

im from manchester....hehehel....do you have a dumpvalve fitted? the ppsshhh sounds really nice...where can i get one from?

the boost gauge was video 7 out of 22

 

[gazjones]

the pitsch sound was when i put an open cone filter on. i didnt like it at all. its got an uprated dv, metal version of the crap plastic one fitted as standard.

 

[helen123]

where can i get a metal version to replace the plastic one...Im guessing as standard, the car does not make the pitshh sound

 

[gazjones]

no pitsh sound, forge sell the metal replacement valves and they have come up with one that allows a bit or boost to blow off and make bit of a pitsh sound
but the ecu depends on recirculating the boost to keep everything running happily

 

[helen123]

yeah..know what you mean...

im thinking to go for zenith grey.

is the fr version lowered than the normal ibiza's