Cupra 280 DSG remap performance figures

[Cupra5dr280]

I have owned a few modified cars in the past and have always wondered what (if any) performance impact the changes made were having. So starting with the Cupra I decided to try and measure the difference.

Times were measured using OBD/GPS app so not entirely scientific but theres a consistency to the results which would appear that they are semi-accurate.

So starting with stock runs 30-70mph, I ignored 0-60 as low speed traction is a bit of a limiting factor on these also did not want to subject the car to an endless run of hard launches:

11/5 dry flat 4.45
13/5 dry flat 4.368
13/5 dry flat 4.444
22/5 dry flat 4.486 22/5 dry flat 4.436
22/5 dry flat 4.543
Average for dry flat runs(6): 4.45


30-70mph of 4.45 seems to be inline with what I have seen in most publications.


1) First Mod a Revo Stage 1 remap, this improved time by over half a second

RevoStage1Remap (-0.55sec)

28/5 dry flat 3.903 (stage1)


2) Next mod 034 motorsport dogbone insert and played around with traction control settings, both did seem to help a little with consistently better times.

Torque Insert & TCS off

10/6 3.861 (stage1 + torque insert)
12/6 3.837 (stage1 + torque insert)
12/6 3.898 (stage1 + torque insert)
Average 3.86 (3runs)

3) Next up a set of PS4S tyres , noticeably improvement in grip

Michelin PS4S Tyres (-0.35sec)


23/12 3.626 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.551 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.452 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.574 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
Average 3.55 (4runs)



So from stock 4.45 to 3.55 all in all an improvement of 0.9 of a second. This puts the car in a fairly impressive bracket when compared to other machines. These were mainly taken from autoexpressUK or Revo website



Car 30-70mph

BMW M4 Competition/AMG C 63 S Coupe/Audi RS5 3.3
Audi RS3 (367PS) 3.53
Cupra (Stage1 + torque insert + MichelinPS4S) 3.55
Porsche 718 Cayman S PDK / BMW M2 DCT 3.6
Lotus exige sport 350 3.7
MERCEDES A45 AMG 3.8
Alpine A110 Premiere Edition 3.9
KiaStinger v6/ Porsche 911 Carrera S/ Audi R8 v8 (1st gen)/ Aston v8 Vantage 3.9
Cupra (Stage1) 3.903
Alfa Romeo 4c 4.0
Audi S5 4.0
BMW M135i Automatic(2012) 4.0
Honda Civic Type R GT / Golf R 4.3
Cupra (Stock) / Jaguar XKR 4.45
Hawkeye WRX prodrive power pack 5.2



Have since fitted R600 intake kit & revo 19inch alloys which are considerably lighter than stock 19" (around 3kg per corner). Waiting on weather to improve and octane booster to run high quality fuel map to see if there are any further gains. At the moment I think traction is becoming the limiting factor so only expecting marginal gains if any over the above.

 

[Damo H]

I have owned a few modified cars in the past and have always wondered what (if any) performance impact the changes made were having. So starting with the Cupra I decided to try and measure the difference.

Times were measured using OBD/GPS app so not entirely scientific but theres a consistency to the results which would appear that they are semi-accurate.

So starting with stock runs 30-70mph, I ignored 0-60 as low speed traction is a bit of a limiting factor on these also did not want to subject the car to an endless run of hard launches:

11/5 dry flat 4.45
13/5 dry flat 4.368
13/5 dry flat 4.444
22/5 dry flat 4.486 22/5 dry flat 4.436
22/5 dry flat 4.543
Average for dry flat runs(6): 4.45


30-70mph of 4.45 seems to be inline with what I have seen in most publications.


1) First Mod a Revo Stage 1 remap, this improved time by over half a second

RevoStage1Remap (-0.55sec)

28/5 dry flat 3.903 (stage1)


2) Next mod 034 motorsport dogbone insert and played around with traction control settings, both did seem to help a little with consistently better times.

Torque Insert & TCS off

10/6 3.861 (stage1 + torque insert)
12/6 3.837 (stage1 + torque insert)
12/6 3.898 (stage1 + torque insert)
Average 3.86 (3runs)

3) Next up a set of PS4S tyres , noticeably improvement in grip

Michelin PS4S Tyres (-0.35sec)


23/12 3.626 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.551 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.452 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.574 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
Average 3.55 (4runs)



So from stock 4.45 to 3.55 all in all an improvement of 0.9 of a second. This puts the car in a fairly impressive bracket when compared to other machines. These were mainly taken from autoexpressUK or Revo website



Car 30-70mph

BMW M4 Competition/AMG C 63 S Coupe/Audi RS5 3.3
Audi RS3 (367PS) 3.53
Cupra (Stage1 + torque insert + MichelinPS4S) 3.55
Porsche 718 Cayman S PDK / BMW M2 DCT 3.6
Lotus exige sport 350 3.7
MERCEDES A45 AMG 3.8
Alpine A110 Premiere Edition 3.9
KiaStinger v6/ Porsche 911 Carrera S/ Audi R8 v8 (1st gen)/ Aston v8 Vantage 3.9
Cupra (Stage1) 3.903
Alfa Romeo 4c 4.0
Audi S5 4.0
BMW M135i Automatic(2012) 4.0
Honda Civic Type R GT / Golf R 4.3
Cupra (Stock) / Jaguar XKR 4.45
Hawkeye WRX prodrive power pack 5.2



Have since fitted R600 intake kit & revo 19inch alloys which are considerably lighter than stock 19" (around 3kg per corner). Waiting on weather to improve and octane booster to run high quality fuel map to see if there are any further gains. At the moment I think traction is becoming the limiting factor so only expecting marginal gains if any over the above.

Just out of interest did you weigh the wheels?

Reason I ask, is I weighed the Performance pack wheels I had, and from memory they were a smidge over 12kg. (not the below 10kg that people suggested at the time), however the Revo wheels are claimed to be 10kg.

I remember my Superleggeras on the MINI being nearly a kg heavier (8.4kg) than the claimed weight (7.5kg). Still very light compared to the other cast wheels at the time. They made a massive difference in the feel of the car due to the unsprung mass being reduced.

 

[Tara]

I have owned a few modified cars in the past and have always wondered what (if any) performance impact the changes made were having. So starting with the Cupra I decided to try and measure the difference.

Times were measured using OBD/GPS app so not entirely scientific but theres a consistency to the results which would appear that they are semi-accurate.

So starting with stock runs 30-70mph, I ignored 0-60 as low speed traction is a bit of a limiting factor on these also did not want to subject the car to an endless run of hard launches:

11/5 dry flat 4.45
13/5 dry flat 4.368
13/5 dry flat 4.444
22/5 dry flat 4.486 22/5 dry flat 4.436
22/5 dry flat 4.543
Average for dry flat runs(6): 4.45


30-70mph of 4.45 seems to be inline with what I have seen in most publications.


1) First Mod a Revo Stage 1 remap, this improved time by over half a second

RevoStage1Remap (-0.55sec)

28/5 dry flat 3.903 (stage1)


2) Next mod 034 motorsport dogbone insert and played around with traction control settings, both did seem to help a little with consistently better times.

Torque Insert & TCS off

10/6 3.861 (stage1 + torque insert)
12/6 3.837 (stage1 + torque insert)
12/6 3.898 (stage1 + torque insert)
Average 3.86 (3runs)

3) Next up a set of PS4S tyres , noticeably improvement in grip

Michelin PS4S Tyres (-0.35sec)


23/12 3.626 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.551 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.452 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
23/12 3.574 (stage1 + torque insert + PS4S)
Average 3.55 (4runs)



So from stock 4.45 to 3.55 all in all an improvement of 0.9 of a second. This puts the car in a fairly impressive bracket when compared to other machines. These were mainly taken from autoexpressUK or Revo website



Car 30-70mph

BMW M4 Competition/AMG C 63 S Coupe/Audi RS5 3.3
Audi RS3 (367PS) 3.53
Cupra (Stage1 + torque insert + MichelinPS4S) 3.55
Porsche 718 Cayman S PDK / BMW M2 DCT 3.6
Lotus exige sport 350 3.7
MERCEDES A45 AMG 3.8
Alpine A110 Premiere Edition 3.9
KiaStinger v6/ Porsche 911 Carrera S/ Audi R8 v8 (1st gen)/ Aston v8 Vantage 3.9
Cupra (Stage1) 3.903
Alfa Romeo 4c 4.0
Audi S5 4.0
BMW M135i Automatic(2012) 4.0
Honda Civic Type R GT / Golf R 4.3
Cupra (Stock) / Jaguar XKR 4.45
Hawkeye WRX prodrive power pack 5.2



Have since fitted R600 intake kit & revo 19inch alloys which are considerably lighter than stock 19" (around 3kg per corner). Waiting on weather to improve and octane booster to run high quality fuel map to see if there are any further gains. At the moment I think traction is becoming the limiting factor so only expecting marginal gains if any over the above.

Really interesting and thanks for the write up.

 

[Cupra5dr280]

Hi Damo,

No never weighed them, had them fitted before I had a chance. As you said claimed weight is 10kg but I suspect they are maybe a little over this. Package they came in did have a sticker with total weight of 43kg so minus 1kg or so for packaging material not too far off the claimed weight.

As you said I did notice a big difference in feel with new wheels especially when going over uneven surfaces. Can feel the wheels bounce back much faster & keep contact with road.

 

[Mr Mustard]

To add to your list of 30-70 figures, here's a few I've measured myself using either a Racelogic Performance box or Dragy, rounded to nearest tenth).

Audi S3 8v - 4.3s
Golf GTI Mk6 - 5.3s
Leon 1.8tsi day - 5.5
E46 M3- 4.2s
M235i - 4.0s
M235i TMC box - 3.6
340i touring - 4.1
340i touring JB+ - 3.7

Guess I'm a bit of a numbers nerd too!

 

[Janusz]

I finally ordered qstarz 10hz gps, will do some runs next week with 470hp manual, just for comparison to the above figures

 

[Cupra5dr280]

"I have a stage 1 280 dsg which dynod at 374 and the torque insert."​

I cant get my hands on superunleaded so on the revo low fuel quality map I'd guess mine is closer to 350.

Next month I plan on rotating the tyres and seeing if octance booster , lighter rims and R600 induction kit can improve on the times listed above.

 

[Janusz]

Can you try 100kmh-200kmh?
Curious how it goes

 

[Damo H]

"I have a stage 1 280 dsg which dynod at 374 and the torque insert."​

I cant get my hands on superunleaded so on the revo low fuel quality map I'd guess mine is closer to 350.

Next month I plan on rotating the tyres and seeing if octance booster , lighter rims and R600 induction kit can improve on the times listed above.

If your car is tuned for low octane fuel already, octane booster is a waste of money.

If you were tracking your car and driving it hard for a prolonged time I’d recommend octane booster as a way of giving you more of a safety margin with your engine. But unless the engine is mapped for it, octane booster is just throwing money away.

 

[Cupra5dr280]

If your car is tuned for low octane fuel already, octane booster is a waste of money.

If you were tracking your car and driving it hard for a prolonged time I’d recommend octane booster as a way of giving you more of a safety margin with your engine. But unless the engine is mapped for it, octane booster is just throwing money away.

My bad I probably should have mentioned sooner I have the Revo sps switch with both low and high quality fuel map options.

 

[Damo H]

My bad I probably should have mentioned sooner I have the Revo sps switch with both low and high quality fuel map options.

Ahhh good man! Stick that octane booster in and let rip then