LOL mate, troble is with clifford's they are very complex, and installer's dont alway's put them in right or worse set them up after doing a decent install(there are hidden menu's you cannot see as customer), end result is you loose confidence in product, i can tell you there is only a handful of really compent installers in the U.K, as said my mate ,used to trouble shoot and what he saw, was incredible, wire twisted to togehter on immobilser cuts and just taped, i wont name and shame for legal reason's...........
Like Pete once you have a good installer stick with them even if it means travelling