Car insurance hilarity

Craig.

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Mar 26, 2024
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I just love the hilarious quotes that insurance companies toss around at time of renewal...

Based on the exact same information, 14 years no claims (1 non-claim accident declared with no monetary cost to insurance in 2022) increased my annual mileage to 8000 miles a year with 2000 of those as business use, I'm 43 with a clean licence, unmodified car (but may cosmetically modify in the future), car is garaged at home (I know not policy friendly but it is security friendly lol)...

Current insurer:

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Best quotes I've had so far:

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and of course, they make it impossible to cancel the renewal online to make you phone them! It's enough to drive someone mad! :ROFLMAO:
 

SuperV8

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What was the increase over last year?
I have actually (surprisingly) found by renewal to be good and could not be bettered by searching quotes!
 
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SRGTD

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It’s never a nice time of year when your car insurance is up for renewal. I’ll be getting my renewal premium notification in the next week or so………😕.

@Craig - How insurance companies arrive at their premiums is very much a mystery to pretty much all of us. Adding business use to your policy would cause the premium to increase, but I doubt it would add much to the overall price. However, even if personal circumstances and vehicle we drive are the same as before and we’ve not made a claim, premiums can change - and will probably go up rather than down for the majority of us.

A brain dump of some of the things that no doubt impact the premiums we pay, even when we don’t make a claim. And before anyone asks, no I don’t work for an insurance company 🤣, but I know people who either do or have done;
  • Basic insurance principle; the losses of the few are paid for by the contributions of all policyholders. So even if we as individuals haven’t made a claim, part of the premium we pay will help fund the payment of claims of others.
  • Insurance company business objectives - growth or profit; a growth strategy might mean lower prices to attract customers, a profit strategy might mean higher prices for (many?) customers.
  • New claims trends / risk profile changes an insurance company may spot during ongoing account performance analysis might result in price changes.
  • Very complex premium calculation algorithms use multiple risk factors. We might not automatically associate some of those factors with car insurance, but they might impact the price we pay - e.g. a person’s credit rating.
  • Insurance company not meeting its own profit objectives (so unable to pay its shareholders a nice fat dividend payment 🤔), so premium rates increase.
  • Vehicle repair costs increasing faster than the general rate of inflation, impacting overall claims costs;
-much of the tech in modern cars is very costly to repair / replace​
- increasing energy costs, paint costs, material costs and labour costs associated vehicle repairs​
  • High write off rates of certain types of vehicle (e.g. EV’s) due to the cost, complexity, length of repair time and / or lack of technical knowledge or equipment needed to repair.
  • Insurer overheads - e.g. heating / lighting, buildings maintenance, employee costs.
  • Legislative changes and government policy - e.g. increased employer NI contributions. These are unlikely to be absorbed by the insurance company, but will be passed onto policyholders.
There will no doubt be many other associated costs that are factored into the premiums we pay.

Always worth shopping around at renewal to see what prices other insurers are quoting. There’s usually no reward for being loyal, although it can also be worth asking your current insurer what their best price is. However, I find it really irritating if the current insurer hasn‘t quoted their best price in the first place! 😡.

From a personal perspective I stick to insurance companies I‘ve heard of that have good customer reviews, and I never go with the cheapest; if a company is the cheapest, it might be they’ve cut costs to the bone and customer service is poor as a result. I want good customer service when it counts - i.e. if I’m unfortunate enough to have to claim…….
 
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Pinky

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Yep. The fun and games. It's as if they have a lottery machine and draw numbers.

I renewed my non Seat toy yesterday. Last year, £117. Renewal quote £135.
Shop around via Go Compare - best quote, £119 from my current insurer. 15 years ncd, value £50k.

Cupra was £241 I think, last month. 20+ years ncd, value £22.5k.

FR was £148 in Nov. Zero ncd but limited miles, value prob £7k ish.

All fully comp.

And as I write this an e-mail just popped up saying my toy renewal is £129. 🤠
 
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WozzaB

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I just love the hilarious quotes that insurance companies toss around at time of renewal...

Based on the exact same information, 14 years no claims (1 non-claim accident declared with no monetary cost to insurance in 2022) increased my annual mileage to 8000 miles a year with 2000 of those as business use, I'm 43 with a clean licence, unmodified car (but may cosmetically modify in the future), car is garaged at home (I know not policy friendly but it is security friendly lol)...

Current insurer:

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Best quotes I've had so far:

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and of course, they make it impossible to cancel the renewal online to make you phone them! It's enough to drive someone mad! :ROFLMAO:
Go Skippy came up as the cheapest last year for me, I'll see what the renewal is in a couple of months.
I didn't put the excess as high as yours , but might see how much the price changes if I up it.
 
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Pinky

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I just love the hilarious quotes that insurance companies toss around at time of renewal...

Based on the exact same information, 14 years no claims (1 non-claim accident declared with no monetary cost to insurance in 2022) increased my annual mileage to 8000 miles a year with 2000 of those as business use, I'm 43 with a clean licence, unmodified car (but may cosmetically modify in the future), car is garaged at home (I know not policy friendly but it is security friendly lol)...

Current insurer:

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Best quotes I've had so far:

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and of course, they make it impossible to cancel the renewal online to make you phone them! It's enough to drive someone mad! :ROFLMAO:
Why is the excess so high ?
 
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cuthound

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The insurance on my Cupra was a tad under £500 with Admiral last year.

This year I got it for £264 with LV.

£250 voluntary excess plus £150 compulsory excess. Mileage limited to 5,000.
 
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SRGTD

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However, this included some future cosmetic modifications. Namely facelift bumpers, bonnet and headlights. Also, some Eibach lowering springs.

I wonder why an online quote might potentially be more expensive than quote given by someone on the end of a phone line. Usually it would be the other way round as the costs and expenses associated with an automated online quote would (normally) be lower than the expenses associated with using a call centre operative.….……🤔
 
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Craig.

The artist formally known as ViperSlider
Mar 26, 2024
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I wonder why an online quote might potentially be more expensive than quote given by someone on the end of a phone line. Usually it would be the other way round as the costs and expenses associated with an automated online quote would (normally) be lower than the expenses associated with using a call centre operative.….……🤔
Well I spoke to Adrian Flux on the phone as they called me twice during my working hours and didn't want to be pestered all day and they came back with £1,154.... Which is just insulting really, when I have quotes of less than half that.
 
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SRGTD

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Just received my renewal invite (my policy renews in a month’s time) - my premium has actually gone down! 😲; not by much - only an £18 reduction compared to my current premium but nevertheless, still a reduction.

I’ll still be shopping around to see what other well known, reputable competitors are quoting for comparable cover / same excess as I currently have 🤔.
 
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Craig.

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Well, I've had an updated price from Adrian Flux: £770 with some future cosmetic mods and a set of Eibach springs declared. This is tempting as it's only £220 over my best quote and that wasn't with any mods declared.
 

Cubbington

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How many miles do you do Craig?

I’m with Admiral, insured with business use and 25k annual mileage (50/50 split business/personal) and it went down to around £550 this year, with only 3 years no claims…lost 9 years after having a company car reset the NCD even though no claims!

Admittedly no mods, go guess that would make a difference!

Cheers,

Nick
 
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Craig.

The artist formally known as ViperSlider
Mar 26, 2024
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Cardiff, S.Wales
How many miles do you do Craig?

I’m with Admiral, insured with business use and 25k annual mileage (50/50 split business/personal) and it went down to around £550 this year, with only 3 years no claims…lost 9 years after having a company car reset the NCD even though no claims!

Admittedly no mods, go guess that would make a difference!

Cheers,

Nick
This time around it was only 3000 but I had a van to use and the car has been off the road for 3 months so I put it down as 8k with 2k business miles, which should be there or there abouts what I expect to use. Most of my usage is local.

I didn't declare any mods with Admiral so why they wanted over £1k is bonkers.
 

WozzaB

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I'm probably mentioning stuff you all know, but your postcode will probably make a big difference when comparing prices between us.

I'm in North London and it's rated as a risky area, not surprising!
From a quick check online it would be about £300-400 cheaper in various areas out of London, how accurate that is I don't know without getting a an actual quote.
 
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Craig.

The artist formally known as ViperSlider
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I'm probably mentioning stuff you all know, but your postcode will probably make a big difference when comparing prices between us.

I'm in North London and it's rated as a risky area, not surprising!
From a quick check online it would be about £300-400 cheaper in various areas out of London, how accurate that is I don't know without getting a an actual quote.
Rumour has it that trying to insure most of the JLR range is pretty much impossible in London at the moment....
 

WozzaB

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Rumour has it that trying to insure most of the JLR range is pretty much impossible in London at the moment....
That wouldn't surprise me!

I'm paying around £900 for my 67 plate 1.4tsi FR ST, that's with 11 years no claims and 6000 miles per year.
I checked loads of comparison sites and went direct to a lot of other insurers, and couldn't find it cheaper. Renewal is in June, so I'll see what they come back with this time.
 
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