Hi there,
I'm looking at a new car towards the end of the year when my next years no claims comes in and so trying to work out what i fancy now so i can save up enough in time
. I've come up with either the cupra, cupra tdi, or a type r, however i'm put off by the type r due to the fact that these days they are so common, i don't see many ibiza's around. If anyone has any other car suggestions i should consider for around the same price range, feel free to throw them in the mix.
I currently drive a yaris t sport, nippy little car and surprises alot of people who think "pah its a yaris, its not gonna be fast" when infact it is probably the fastest of the 'warm hatch' band of cars (saxo VTR's and the like). However due to my erm, somewhat aggressive driving style, i average about 30mpg, unfortunately the yaris is low geared which means that cruising at high speeds on the motorway means the engines doing 5-6k revs and thus the 30mpg is achieved. I put in about 50 quid of petrol a week (thats the normal stuff not v power)
I drive on average perhaps 350 miles a week. A fair bit of that is on the dual carriageway to and from work, however due to the high revving engine my little yaris drops to around 30mpg past 75mph, then there is the b road blast to my girlfriends and back several times a week.
Looking at the current second hand prices for one with around 30,000 on the clock, the cupra is cheaper than the cupra tdi by at least £1000. insurance costs for me will be pretty much the same on both.
I have to admit that for me, performance comes before fuel economy but only to a point. How do they compare performance wise? i've been on youtube and been reading around these forums etc, and been looking at the performance figures which suggest they are very very close and in 'real world' driving rather than the dash from the traffic lights, the tdi would be the quicker of the two until you hit silly speeds.
Its very difficult to find any unbiased opinion on this kind of subject online because such threads are generally a hardened diesel veteran vs. a petrolhead and usually comes down to 'mines got more torque', 'yeh well at least mine doesn't sound like a tractor' style arguments and the petrolhead tends to be a young man who is stuck in the past and still thinks diesels are slow oil burners like they were 10 years ago when nowadays, the gap between petrol and diesel has diminished and in my opinion will soon open up again with diesel ahead. Petrol engines have pretty much reached the peak of their development where as diesel development is still in relatively early stages.
There's also the tuning ability i need to consider. I'm not a hardcore car modder mainly because on small engines like my yaris (a 1.5 105bhp engine for those who don't know) you have to spend alot of money to make any significant gains. From what i've read with bigger turbocharged engines, significant gains can be made relatively cheaply from remaps etc. On a small engine you could be talking £2000+ to make the kind of gains a remap offers on these kind of cars.
At the end of the day i do not care what my car sounds like, nor do i care if i have a built in smoke screen function at the push of my right foot, as long as i enjoy the drive and can keep up with the majority of cars on the road which both of these cars should be capable of.
All opinions are welcome but i'd appreciate the non biased opinions most and hope this thread does not descend into what i described in a previous paragraph lol. I apologise for the length of my post and how jumbled up and poorly punctuated it is, i got a bit carried away with my typing.
cheers,
Matt
I'm looking at a new car towards the end of the year when my next years no claims comes in and so trying to work out what i fancy now so i can save up enough in time
. I've come up with either the cupra, cupra tdi, or a type r, however i'm put off by the type r due to the fact that these days they are so common, i don't see many ibiza's around. If anyone has any other car suggestions i should consider for around the same price range, feel free to throw them in the mix.I currently drive a yaris t sport, nippy little car and surprises alot of people who think "pah its a yaris, its not gonna be fast" when infact it is probably the fastest of the 'warm hatch' band of cars (saxo VTR's and the like). However due to my erm, somewhat aggressive driving style, i average about 30mpg, unfortunately the yaris is low geared which means that cruising at high speeds on the motorway means the engines doing 5-6k revs and thus the 30mpg is achieved. I put in about 50 quid of petrol a week (thats the normal stuff not v power)
I drive on average perhaps 350 miles a week. A fair bit of that is on the dual carriageway to and from work, however due to the high revving engine my little yaris drops to around 30mpg past 75mph, then there is the b road blast to my girlfriends and back several times a week.
Looking at the current second hand prices for one with around 30,000 on the clock, the cupra is cheaper than the cupra tdi by at least £1000. insurance costs for me will be pretty much the same on both.
I have to admit that for me, performance comes before fuel economy but only to a point. How do they compare performance wise? i've been on youtube and been reading around these forums etc, and been looking at the performance figures which suggest they are very very close and in 'real world' driving rather than the dash from the traffic lights, the tdi would be the quicker of the two until you hit silly speeds.
Its very difficult to find any unbiased opinion on this kind of subject online because such threads are generally a hardened diesel veteran vs. a petrolhead and usually comes down to 'mines got more torque', 'yeh well at least mine doesn't sound like a tractor' style arguments and the petrolhead tends to be a young man who is stuck in the past and still thinks diesels are slow oil burners like they were 10 years ago when nowadays, the gap between petrol and diesel has diminished and in my opinion will soon open up again with diesel ahead. Petrol engines have pretty much reached the peak of their development where as diesel development is still in relatively early stages.
There's also the tuning ability i need to consider. I'm not a hardcore car modder mainly because on small engines like my yaris (a 1.5 105bhp engine for those who don't know) you have to spend alot of money to make any significant gains. From what i've read with bigger turbocharged engines, significant gains can be made relatively cheaply from remaps etc. On a small engine you could be talking £2000+ to make the kind of gains a remap offers on these kind of cars.
At the end of the day i do not care what my car sounds like, nor do i care if i have a built in smoke screen function at the push of my right foot, as long as i enjoy the drive and can keep up with the majority of cars on the road which both of these cars should be capable of.
All opinions are welcome but i'd appreciate the non biased opinions most and hope this thread does not descend into what i described in a previous paragraph lol. I apologise for the length of my post and how jumbled up and poorly punctuated it is, i got a bit carried away with my typing.
cheers,
Matt
