Biodiesel

[muddyboots]

...and some pretty hefty penalties if you get stopped and they dip your tank !

Suppose the chances depend where you live, where you buy it from & who knows - but I wouldn't risk it.
Plus I doubt red diesel is anywhere near the quality as normal pump fuel ?

 

[Fidge]

A PD turbo is between £600 for an exchange item to £1800 for a new unit btw depending on the car, PLUS labour. personally, why bother. you get what you pay for.

Most Supermarket Diesel and Low Sulphur Diesel contains Bio Diesel. Stay well clear imho

Most pumps in europe have min 5% Biodiesel now and its not just supermarkets here either!

I'm gonna be trialing it on my 1.4 PD Tdi when I get it back, as I do over 600 miles a week in it! Any problems will be sure to arise pretty soon so I'll keep you all posted!

 

[ChrisUK]

I'd say it would be the long term problems that you should be worrying about, not short term !

 

[Fidge]

I'd say it would be the long term problems that you should be worrying about, not short term !

Long term problems such as what? Well the manual says I can use it so if there are any probs I'll just charge them to SEAT!

 

[ChrisUK]

Such as your injectors f***ing up......plus your car will smell like a chip shop !!

My manual says "Do NOT use Biodiesel under any circumstances"

 

[horace1664]

My manual says "Do NOT use Biodiesel under any circumstances"

Well don't then.

If his manual says he can, then he can.

 

[Fidge]

Such as your injectors f***ing up......plus your car will smell like a chip shop !!

My manual says "Do NOT use Biodiesel under any circumstances"

Dont mind the car smelling of a chip shop if its gonna save money! I wouldn't use it in your motor if the manual says not to!

 

[horace1664]

Found this.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=3242

May be of interest to some.

 

[sssstew]

Good find horace, theres some good information in there which makes sense.

Your car doesnt smell like a chip shop when using it.

 

[Morg]

Most pumps in europe have min 5% Biodiesel now and its not just supermarkets here either!

I'm gonna be trialing it on my 1.4 PD Tdi when I get it back, as I do over 600 miles a week in it! Any problems will be sure to arise pretty soon so I'll keep you all posted!

Thanks mate will look forward to hear how things go

 

[horace1664]

Never have liked the idea of a DPF

http://www.infineum.com/products/fu...bricants - reprint from Lubes_and_Greases.pdf

 

[Fidge]

http://www.infineum.com/products/fu...bricants - reprint from Lubes_and_Greases.pdf

Does the 1.4 pd tdi have a DPF do you know?

 

[horace1664]

Does the 1.4 pd tdi have a DPF do you know?

I.m sorry I don't, but there are folks that will know I'm sure.

 

[Fidge]

Just to let you know I'm using B75 at the mo covered over 300 miles and noticed no difference apart from a subtle sweet smell from the exhuast rather than the nasty diesel one.

 

[beezasport]

DONT DO IT...im a plant engineer and some of our customers have been using the stuff, dunno why when they could just be using red but anyway. Had to strip a clyinder head last week it was full of s**t, injectors were nackered and needs a new fuel pump....not cheap

Spend the cash on decent fuel and it'll save you money in the longrun.

 

[Fidge]

DONT DO IT...im a plant engineer and some of our customers have been using the stuff, dunno why when they could just be using red but anyway. Had to strip a clyinder head last week it was full of s**t, injectors were nackered and needs a new fuel pump....not cheap

Spend the cash on decent fuel and it'll save you money in the longrun.

Can't see why that was, the bio i'm using is EN and DIN standard and my manual says I can use it so thought I'd give it a go! Just spent a grand on a new head for it last week. There are alot of horrer stories but am gonna try it myself cos the savings for me will be well worth it if there are no problems.

 

[cheshire cat]

...and some pretty hefty penalties if you get stopped and they dip your tank !

Suppose the chances depend where you live, where you buy it from & who knows - but I wouldn't risk it.
Plus I doubt red diesel is anywhere near the quality as normal pump fuel ?

funny you should mention that, I hear THEY are having a major crack down at the mo' approx 1 in 5 stopped are running red

 

[beezasport]

Can't see why that was, the bio i'm using is EN and DIN standard and my manual says I can use it so thought I'd give it a go! Just spent a grand on a new head for it last week. There are alot of horrer stories but am gonna try it myself cos the savings for me will be well worth it if there are no problems.

probably some shat cheap stuff knowing our customers!

 

[Fidge]

UPDATE: 2000 miles covered and no noticeable differences in power or mpg. Startup and idle is lumpy on icy mornings but never the less it has started on first turn everytime. Running approx B75

 

[ChrisGTL]

DONT DO IT...im a plant engineer and some of our customers have been using the stuff, dunno why when they could just be using red but anyway. Had to strip a clyinder head last week it was full of s**t, injectors were nackered and needs a new fuel pump....not cheap

Spend the cash on decent fuel and it'll save you money in the longrun.

Agree, I test used engine oils and I've seen a increase in numbers since the start of Biodiesel. Thing is the OEM's never used Biodiesel as a reference fuel when testing the engines.

Who knows what it does in the long term.....What I see is a massive increase in engine oil fuel dilutions. Typical 6-7% and upwards. The average fuel dilution (if any) before biodiesel was on the UK scene was 1-2% max (unless major engine problem)

I think the goverment put lots of pressure on OEM's to included that biodiesel is ok to use now in car handbooks.