Anybody got aftermarket headlights?

[TarekElsakka]

Hey there,

Today I saw a modified candy white SEAT Leon, and I was truly amazed by its beauty. The fact that I RARELY see a SEAT Leon in general where I live made it even more special since it had the exact same modifications I want for my car:

Glossy black roof vinyl

Black matte behind the rear number plate

Black rims

but what truly caught my eyes was the head light units he had. They looked so beautiful, but also very different from any I've seen online or locally. They didn't have LEDs, but they had two projector lenses and two rings which were both light blue, almost snowy white, exactly like the ones in the new 5-series BMW if you've seen them.

I also heard that modifying head light units or buying aftermarket ones with rings usually give errors on facelift Leons, so I went near him and saw that it was a facelift not a pre-facelift. I should have written down his number plate and tried to somehow reach him to see where he modified the car so brilliantly, but unfortunately I was too stunned by how pretty it looked that I just forgot, lol.

So anyway, my original point was does any body have aftermarket head light units here? If so, can you please post pictures of them lit (on)?

I have a feeling it might be these:

Does any body have a picture of these lit up? I saw these on a website before but they were for pre-facelift, that's why I wanted to make sure his car is a facelift like mine. But then again he didn't have LEDs so maybe it's not these, or maybe he didn't connect them because they gave errors and so they're not visible? Oh God.. what to do. lol

Thank you very much guys, any information is much appreciated because I'm losing my mind here, haha.

By the way, this is the color I'm talking about:

Specifically the left lens in that picture.

 

[Willz17]

Hey mate, You know i got them installed =]
Pictures are on the last thread you created a while back!

 

[TarekElsakka]

Yeah I know, mate. Yours are very nice, however they are different from the ones I've seen on that car today since they have no LED strip and the rings' color is very light blue, like the one in the new 5-series BMW. Oh and it was a facelift.

By the way, you mentioned that the rings kept giving errors because the company forgot to ship something with the units, right? What was that exactly? Would you happen to have a model numer / picture of that item? Is it a resistor/decoder of some sort? The only thing that is scaring me about retrofitting projector lenses (whether two in each head light or just one in the dipped beam) is the fact that the rings or lenses themselves would give errors because I don't think they're canbus-friendly or whatever.

 

[Willz17]

the boxes that were missing were decoders / resistors which p[lugged inbetween the LEDs cable and the normal car power cable. Just like the HID decoders you told me to get =]

Its really simple and here is a picture of the box:

Hope this helps.
No part numbers im afraid as i think its AutoArts self product?

 

[Deleted member 74601]

I saw those ones on the dectane website, and they are available for FL models.

The reason we couldn't buy them in the UK is because we are right hand drive, the lights are only suitable for left hand drive cars. As long as your car in left hand drive, you'll be fine.

These are some very similar ones, but I'm sure I've seen the ones you posted for FL cars.

https://www.dectane.de/product_info...at-leon-1p-09--daytime-running-light-chr.html

This is the whole range I can find for the FL models: https://www.dectane.de/index.php?cat=c1770_LEON-1P1-09-.html&language=en

You'd want the more expensive ones as the DRLs are better on those. I really wanted a set of these

 

[TarekElsakka]

Thank you very much, mate, I truly appreciate it. I'm going to pass these pictures on to my friend, if you don't mind. I Googled "aftermarket projector lenses" yesterday and the first result was an Australian company. I emailed them regarding the dashboard-errors issue with the kit, and they told me that the only things that might give errors would be the angel eyes / rings, whereas the lenses themselves will be just fine. They also told me that there are resistors/decoders for them which don't require any cutting or whatever, and wold work perfectly. They told me that they don't ship those decoders with the kit because they're not very requested, but they'd be willing to link me to a company that sells them if I want to get them, so I'm awaiting their reply.

The problem with decoders/resistors is that they have different specifications and I don't know which ones I'd need exactly, you know? I may just try to go with the decoders I already have for my HID ballasts, which I removed, and see if they'll work. I'll hopefully visit my friend's store today and try plugging in angel eyes and see if they'll give errors, and whether the decoders I have would work.

I know it isn't the smartest thing to do, but I think I'm just going to retrofit projector lenses because to be honest with you I don't like the LED strips. Not only that, but it's also a cheaper method and it gives you the option to do any other modification you'd want in order for the head light unit to look perfect. The only other thing I'm afraid of is the alignment issue, but I have already fixed the alignment on my head light units myself so I guess it'd be do-able after retrofitting lenses as well.

By the way, I can see that you have two lenses in each head light unit, does that mean one for the dipped beam and one for the high beam? If so, how's the high beam one? And does it need hid ballasts? I'd rather not install hids in the high beam.

 

[TarekElsakka]

@xreyukx, thanks for your reply. Yes, I'm pretty sure I came across these ones before as well and that some people were bothered by the fact that they are LHD only. The only problem is that the ones I've seen don't have LED strips, and that's why they were very nice looking. I'd honestly rather have lenses only than lenses and LEDs, just like the OEM bi-xenon head light units.

 

[Willz17]

Sorry mate, i dont know the specification on the decoders =[
Although im positive that the projectors will not put a error on the dash because its just like using normal bulbs projectors are just a piece of glass infront of the bulb if you like^^. So for example if your lights currently work fine and your retrofitting with the same lights, the projectors will be fine.

LEDS/Angel Eyes on the other hand are made up of LEDs which therefore can give errors because of the cars canbus system. This is why we need decoders/resistors. I think aslong as you get the decoder/resistor it will work imo.

Yes i have 2 lenses on each headlight. 1 indicator, 1 dipped beam (projector) and 1 high beam (not projector) I have installed HID inside the dipped beam (projector lens) and lighting is great with no errors as i have used the decoder kit you suggested =]

Here are some better images close up:

HIDs 5000k to match the LEDs perfect match

Close up look (LEFT: Projector lens MIDDLE: High Beam reflector Right Indicator

Hope this helps =]

 

[Deleted member 74601]

@xreyukx, thanks for your reply. Yes, I'm pretty sure I came across these ones before as well and that some people were bothered by the fact that they are LHD only. The only problem is that the ones I've seen don't have LED strips, and that's why they were very nice looking. I'd honestly rather have lenses only than lenses and LEDs, just like the OEM bi-xenon head light units.

Those ones I linked to have LED strips.

 

[TarekElsakka]

@Willz, thanks for the information and help, I truly appreciate it. Wow, all that time I thought there were two projector lenses in each head light unit! Perhaps I thought the middle high beam reflector was a lens because it has a ring in front of it? They look great, thank you for the pictures. I'm offered similar head light units but they're a bit too expensive for my taste, that's why I'd like to go for retrofitting instead. The guy promised me that there is no cutting or anything and that he fits the projector lens INSIDE the reflector, which means there will be nothing taken out or such.

I reserved an appointment with him Tuesday night since that's my day off from university to see what is going to happen. I'll probably have him connect the rings to my car and see if they actually give an error or not, because if so, then we'll search hids-direct or similar for decoders/resistors. I have no problem unplugging the rings until I receive the resistors if I actually perform the retrofitting this week.

By the way, how's the alignment of the low beam projector lenses? Have you tried it while pointing at a garage door, for instance? I have the OEM reflectors and Philips Xtreme Vision installed in them. At first, when the guy installed them for me, they were out of alignment, or at least one of them was; I was so irritated that I just challenged myself that I can realign both the low beam and high beam reflectors and I did them perfectly! Would it be easy re-aligning the projector lenses if one of them is pointing higher than the other, for instance? And I have the automatic up/down adjustment thing for the low beam, would that still work with the lenses?

Thanks, mate, and sorry for the many questions.

 

[Willz17]

retrofitting usually involves cutting the original reflectors inside the lights. If you dont the projector will not sit correctly inside the headlight. Or if he somewhow manages the projector will look really bad as you wont be able to put a shroud on it to cover up all the bad looks ^^

I had to re-allign my headlights.... did it myself took 5 mins and were spot on, and yes i did this on a garage door and then took to MOT test center and they said yep they are alligned correctly =]

 

[TarekElsakka]

Okay, awesome. Ahh.. I didn't know that. Perhaps I misunderstood what he said since we used different terms in Arabic than reflectors, lenses, etc. lol

How did you re-align them? Using screws or what? I realigned my reflectors by removing the bulbs and reinstalling them the correct way. Not sure if that's the way to do it on lenses, though.

 

[Willz17]

I re-alligned just like any MOT test center would of mate,
Turning the adjustment screws.

Every car headlight has them, But be carefull turning it ever so slightly makes a big change so dont turn them too much!!!

Hope this helps =]

 

[TarekElsakka]

Ahh okay.. so it's basically like the OEM head lights then. I thought the screws adjust BOTH reflectors together, though, rather than only one of them? I mean what if the high beam is just fine whereas the low beam is a bit out of alignment? I know I am thinking too much but what can I do. lmao

 

[Willz17]

To be honest, I think 1 screw does the up and down adjustment for both dipped and high beams.
And another screw does left and right adjustment for both dipped and high beam.

And I wouldn't car about high beams to be honest, at the end of the day, when high beams are on they are going to be blinding people so what difference does it make lol

No point in adjusting high beams of it is possible or not.
I know MOT centres only align dipped beams

 

[TarekElsakka]

I completely agree with you. I only ever use the high beam when I am in the left lane, driving a bit fast, and flashing people who drive slowly and should be in the middle or the right lane. That's why I was asking if it would be possible to align the dipped beam on its own, but it seems like it has to be both. That's alright, though, I'll still align it if it's not correct even if it'll move the high beam as well. Thanks for the info, mate, and I'm waiting on my guy to give me a call and let me know that he got the head lights.

 

[Willz17]

Make sure you post some pictures up when you got them fitted!!
I'm looking forward to seeing some nice retrofits =D

 

[TarekElsakka]

I sure will. I've been waiting too long to buy them to miss doing that! Lol. By the way, I'm not retrofitting lenses, I'm buying dectane head light units.

 

[Willz17]

Ah I see, I love the Dectane lights they look better than my autoart ones!!
But us UK drivers can't have them as they are not available for uk cars =[

You have a white Leon right? Be sure to buy the black lights and not the chrome xD
Especially if you going for black/white theme just like I have done orange/black theme =]

 

[TarekElsakka]

Yeah! I'm getting the black (smoke) ones. No, my car is silver, but I believe that silver/black is just as good as white/black, to be honest. Hopefully after the head light units I'll go for a glossy black roof, matte black behind the rear number plate, and lastly spray the rims either glossy or matte black. I just want to transform the car from the stock look to something special, especially since I've only ever seen ONE modified Leon where I live. lol