Advise on buying a cupra 180/150bhp??

[Dare]

Hi all

Im seriously thinking about buying a Ibiza cupra but am unsure whether to go for the 180bhp or the 150bhp??

The thing is that if i do get one im defenatly going to get it re mapped soon after buying it so is there any point in getting a 180bhp over the 150bhp??

Any advise appreciated.
(I currently drive a lupo gti)

Steve

 

[slimjim]

Those Lupo GTI's must be a larf! LOL!

If you buy the 150, you will chip it ... say up to 180...

If you buy the 180.... will you chip it ?

 

[AlphaMale]

Those Lupo GTI's must be a larf! LOL!

If you buy the 150, you will chip it ... say up to 180...

If you buy the 180.... will you chip it ?

Didn't understand that post at all

Dare : if you get a 156bhp Cupra and get it Revo'd you will have around 210bhp if Revo a Cupra 'R' 180 then you will have 210bhp

power from revo remap on Cupra

power from revo remap on a Cupra R

So if your going to chip/remap then you'll have the exact same thing, some engine and turbo etc.

But of you go for a Cupra R you will get a few extras thrown in like Brembo brakes / 16 Seat Sport alloys (OZ Super T's) / Boost gauge and more space betweem the two rear wheels

Might be worth the extra £1k for all that stuff.

Up to you.

Alpha

 

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Here are the engine versions we could do for you
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This should be able to help you in your search.
Would reccomend the DV at the same time as genuine ones are not strong enough really for the remap and possibly the Green Cotton Air filter at the same time.
This will help alot.
Have fun
Sarah

 

[Dare]

Yeah the lupo is great fun! But time has come for a turbo!!

As quoted by Jabba sport below there isnt much difference in the end result between the 180/150bhp as its the same engine.

Standard BHP:156
Jabba BHP: 196 - 208
Standard Torque: 160
Jabba Torque:224 - 241
£475 (inc VAT)


Standard BHP:180
Jabba BHP: 196 - 210
Standard Torque: 162
Jabba Torque:222 - 240
£475 (inc VAT)

Im just wondering whether there is any benifit from buying the 180bhp?

Steve

 

[jase750]

Yeah you get to give the insurance companies more money

 

[slimjim]

Didn't understand that post at all

OK, OK .. I didn't get the figures right ... but you know what I mean.

If you buy the 150. you will chip it.
If you buy the 180..... will you chip it?

You are saying that the chipped 150 will piss on a 180, so if you buy a 180 chip it .. and it will piss on a chipped 150 ....

Make any more sense?

 

[flashbsd]

warn you now, they don't handle half as well as the lupo will, not really, it has been asked alot in the past, just do a lil search and all will be revealed, we get these questions weekly.

Don't know why they are different, exactly the same engine once remapped with the same code?!? maybe its just their findings.

Only extra difference i wish i had that the R has is the brembo's, well worht the extra grand IMO.

 

[slimjim]

just read the other posts (for a change) ... they are the same chipped?

Weird..... 150 + chip then ....

 

[AlphaMale]

OK, OK .. I didn't get the figures right ... but you know what I mean.

If you buy the 150. you will chip it.
If you buy the 180..... will you chip it?

You are saying that the chipped 150 will piss on a 180, so if you buy a 180 chip it .. and it will piss on a chipped 150 ....

Make any more sense?

Sorry ... I am tired been on the PC all day

I guess if he got a 156 he is 75% certain to remap it to 210bhp

If he gets a 180 he might think it's fast enough and say he'll be 50% certain to chip it.

If he remaps a 156 to 210 then it'll beat a 180 ... Yes.

But if he remaps a 180 he will have the exact same engine/turbo/remap as the 150 had so he will now be racing a identical car.

Is we were talking Leons then yes that would be a good point as they have different engine components twin SMI and a bigger turbo.

Leon Cupra has 180bhp and will remap to 210bhp and will give the Cupra R (210/225) a run for it's money.

But if the Leon Cupra R has a remap he will have 270bhp and will blow a standard/chipped Leon Cupra into the weeds.

Make more sense?

Alpha

 

[Dare]

Would reccomend the DV at the same time as genuine ones are not strong enough really for the remap

Sorry whats a DV?

Cheers for the advise guys

warn you now, they don't handle half as well as the lupo will

Yeah, but not many things do
Im sure that if you slam a cupra with some coillies it'll handle well enough .
Surely they dont handle as badly as a newish golf??


Whats the sorta 0 to 60 is expected after remapping a cupra?

 

[slimjim]

Sorry ... I am tired been on the PC all day

I guess if he got a 156 he is 75% certain to remap it to 210bhp

If he gets a 180 he might think it's fast enough and say he'll be 50% certain to chip it.

If he remaps a 156 to 210 then it'll beat a 180 ... Yes.

But if he remaps a 180 he will have the exact same engine/turbo/remap as the 150 had so he will now be racing a identical car.

Is we were talking Leons then yes that would be a good point as they have different engine components twin SMI and a bigger turbo.

Leon Cupra has 180bhp and will remap to 210bhp and will give the Cupra R (210/225) a run for it's money.

But if the Leon Cupra R has a remap he will have 270bhp and will blow a standard/chipped Leon Cupra into the weeds.

Make more sense?

Alpha

Yup...

So the 150 and 180 are the same, but with difference maps. Fair enough.

so what "other" difference's are there between the 150 and 180... apart from the engine?

flashbsd said something about Brembo's ... so the 180 is more setup to stop the extra power than the 150?

 

[slimjim]

One I actually know!

DV = Dump Valve.

The standard Dump Valve is crappy and new ones are loads better with different membranes and stronger internals.....

(Preparing to be flamed!)

 

[AlphaMale]

so what "other" difference's are there between the 150 and 180... apart from the engine?

flashbsd said something about Brembo's ... so the 180 is more setup to stop the extra power than the 150?

Look at my 1st post "But of you go for a Cupra R you will get a few extras thrown in like Brembo brakes / 16 Seat Sport alloys (OZ Super T's) / Boost gauge and more space betweem the two rear wheels".

You get:

Brembo brakes (Bill sells these for nearly £500)
OZ Super T's (£400 ish)
Gauges in the center console
wider rear track (same as spacers really from Bill)
Red seat belts
ECU mapped to give 180bhp
Seat insets don't have 'cupra' written on it they have 'seat sport'
'R' badges inside and out

Don't think there is much I left out?

Alpha

 

[Dare]

Leon Cupra has 180bhp and will remap to 210bhp and will give the Cupra R (210/225) a run for it's money.

I wouldnt mind betting that a chipped cupra would beat a stnd leon (due to the torque)

DV = Dump Valve

Doh!!


What are the brakes like on the cupra?

 

[AlphaMale]

Leon Cupra has 180bhp and will remap to 210bhp and will give the Cupra R (210/225) a run for it's money.

I wouldnt mind betting that a chipped cupra would beat a stnd leon (due to the torque)

What are the brakes like on the cupra?

I didn't want to start people off on a debate but yes and no.

When I had my Leon Cupra R standard at 210bhp and a mate with a Revo'd Leon Cupra there wasn't much difference as the lack of torque I had against his car I made up for in the higher revs due to the twin side mounted intercoolers (keeps the power going for longer). Cupra ran out of steam before me.

When my Leon Cupra R was revo'd "Bye bye!"

I have had my Ibiza Cupra for about 3 weeks now and the disks and pads are 6 weeks old ... I am impressed

But when they get to the end of their life I'll either go Brembo route or ATE power disks for the front, and some Feroddo ds2500 pads.

Alpha

 

[AlphaMale]

I wouldnt mind betting that a chipped cupra would beat a stnd leon (due to the torque)

Dohh ... read that wrong.

Yehh a remap on a (light) Ibiza Cupra running 210bhp should beat a 180bhp heavy Leon Cupra ... if it didn't it would mean you have Plato in the Leon and my mother in the Ibiza

It'll out handle the leon too.

Alpha

 

[Martyn]

Dude, the price of Brembos have gone sky high so if you can get an 'R' for only a few quid more than the normal Cupra then you'll be laughing

My 'R' is around 200 and its not even chipped yet

 

[AlphaMale]

Dude, the price of Brembos have gone sky high so if you can get an 'R' for only a few quid more than the normal Cupra then you'll be laughing

My 'R' is around 200 and its not even chipped yet

But keep in mind he has spent a lot of £$£$ on "Forge 007P DV, Samco TIP, Forge FMIC, Ramair Maxflow Induction Kit, Milltek Exhaust and Downpipe / Race CAT, FK Silverline Coilovers and Stewart Warner Boost Gauge in a Nomad Racing A Pillar Pod." which took him from 180bhp to around 200bhp.

When he gets that chipped he will have more than 210bhp

And when I fit my KO3s turbo I will have more than that too

Alpha

 

[Nealcupra]

Hey,

I was thinking of buying a 156bhp ibiza ( I own a starlet turbo right now but for same price i can get an ibiza!).

What sort of times 0-60 and 1/4 could i expect from them?