19 inch alloys on Leon mk3 tdi

[Hussainahmdd]

I have bought 19 inch bola csrs for my Leon however when taken to a garage to fit it didn’t seem to fit onto the wheel hub one bolt wasn’t matching with the wheel hub they are 5x112 and on bolas website they have been fitted on Leon mk3s so just wondering what’s gone wrong or where I’ve gone wrong in buying these they are 19x8.5 fitment

 

[Hussainahmdd]

And also the centre bore size is bigger at 72.66mm compared to Leon Which is 51.7mm and ET is 40-45

 

[tracktoy]

I have two sets of aftermarket wheels (not your wheels) and the 5 x 112 is the correct size.

The center bore size difference should be sorted with a fitment (thanks to @serdar_18fr Spigot ring) on the wheels that reduces it to fit on the hub (mine has a rubber one on one set and metal on the second set.

Are you going to lower the car as mine are 19*8 and there is not a lot of room left under the arch but i am lowered.

 

[serdar_18fr]

And also the centre bore size is bigger at 72.66mm compared to Leon Which is 51.7mm and ET is 40-45

An important correction:

It's not 51.7, correct size is 57.1 mm.

To be exact, it's 57.06, but almost everybody goes with 57.1, because the difference is negligible.

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[Seriously?]

And also the centre bore size is bigger at 72.66mm compared to Leon Which is 51.7mm and ET is 40-45

Spigot rings required for the centre bore adjustment.
Are you sure the PCD is 5x112?
Did you buy them new or used?

 

[Hussainahmdd]

I have two sets of aftermarket wheels (not your wheels) and the 5 x 112 is the correct size.

The center bore size difference should be sorted with a fitment on the wheels that reduces it to fit on the hub (mine has a rubber one on one set and metal on the second set.

Are you going to lower the car as mine are 19*8 and there is not a lot of room left under the arch but i am lowered.

I had a feeling it would be something with needing spigot rings and I’m not sure If im going to lower yet once I get these fitted hopefully tonight then I will see

 

[Hussainahmdd]

Spigot rings required for the centre bore adjustment.
Are you sure the PCD is 5x112?
Did you buy them new or used?

I bought them second hand the guy I bought them off is adamant they are 5x112 he offered to try put them on himself but with what you guys have said I think I just need spigot rings

 

[SRGTD]

I have bought 19 inch bola csrs for my Leon however when taken to a garage to fit it didn’t seem to fit onto the wheel hub one bolt wasn’t matching with the wheel hub they are 5x112 and on bolas website they have been fitted on Leon mk3s so just wondering what’s gone wrong or where I’ve gone wrong in buying these they are 19x8.5 fitment

Hi @Hussainahmdd - I’m might be misunderstanding your post but assuming I’m not, I'm struggling to understand how just one of the five bolts didn’t line up with the bolt hole in your car’s wheel hub assembly. If the Bola alloys are 5x112 then all bolt holes in the alloys should line up exactly with the bolt holes in your car’s wheel hub. If the PCD is anything other than 5x112 then you‘d probably only be able to get the first bolt to fit correctly.

With any alloy wheels I’ve had - either the OEM originals fitted to the car or aftermarket alloys I’ve bought - the spec of the wheels (the ‘J’ size, diameter, offset, PCD / bolt pattern, centre bore size etc.) has been cast into the reverse side of the spokes. Assuming Bola do this with their alloys, then the PCD / bolt pattern (5x112 if that’s what yours actually are) should be one of the spec details cast into the back of the spokes. Checking the reverse of the spokes should hopefully confirm whether or not they are the correct fitment for your car.

Most aftermarket alloys do have ‘oversized’ centre bores - this is to maximise the number of vehicle makes that the wheels can be fitted to, so maximises alloy wheel sales for the wheel’s manufacturers. As has been said, spigot rings of the appropriate size will reduce the centre bore size of the Bola’s down to 57.1 (the centre bore size for most VAG cars) and will help to centre the wheel on the wheel hub when mounting the wheels on the car. Spigot rings may also help minimise or eliminate any potential wheel wobble / vibration that might be present if spigot rings aren’t used, although wheel bolt tightening sequence is also important in this respect - see below. However, spigot rings won’t solve the issue of misalignment of the bolt holes in the wheels with those in the wheel hubs if the PCD of the wheels is something other than 5x112.

A few other important points to note;

• Most aftermarket alloys use bolts with a conical seat and OEM alloys use bolts with a radius / ball seat. It’s important to use the correct bolts where the profile of the bolt seat matches the profile of the bolt holes in the wheels. Use of the correct bolts when torqued to the manufacturer’s torque spec should ensure the correct clamping force is achieved between wheel and hub, prevent undue stress being exerted on the wheel bolts and stop the wheels working loose while driving.
• Bolts should be tightened in a star pattern to minimise the risk of vibration. When the car is jacked up to fit the alloys, the bolts should initially be hand tightened (in a star pattern). When the car is lowered to the ground, the bolts should then tightened to the car manufacturers torque setting in the same star sequence - as per the picture below;

• Fitting different alloys to those fitted by Seat when the car was built is a modification for insurance purposes, so it’s important to inform your insurer; not doing so could invalidate your insurance cover.

 

[Hussainahmdd]

Hi @Hussainahmdd - I’m might be misunderstanding your post but assuming I’m not, I'm struggling to understand how just one of the five bolts didn’t line up with the bolt hole in your car’s wheel hub assembly. If the Bola alloys are 5x112 then all bolt holes in the alloys should line up exactly with the bolt holes in your car’s wheel hub. If the PCD is anything other than 5x112 then you‘d probably only be able to get the first bolt to fit correctly.

With any alloy wheels I’ve had - either the OEM originals fitted to the car or aftermarket alloys I’ve bought - the spec of the wheels (the ‘J’ size, diameter, offset, PCD / bolt pattern, centre bore size etc.) has been cast into the reverse side of the spokes. Assuming Bola do this with their alloys, then the PCD / bolt pattern (5x112 if that’s what yours actually are) should be one of the spec details cast into the back of the spokes. Checking the reverse of the spokes should hopefully confirm whether or not they are the correct fitment for your car.

Most aftermarket alloys do have ‘oversized’ centre bores - this is to maximise the number of vehicle makes that the wheels can be fitted to, so maximises alloy wheel sales for the wheel’s manufacturers. As has been said, spigot rings of the appropriate size will reduce the centre bore size of the Bola’s down to 57.1 (the centre bore size for most VAG cars) and will help to centre the wheel on the wheel hub when mounting the wheels on the car. Spigot rings may also help minimise or eliminate any potential wheel wobble / vibration that might be present if spigot rings aren’t used, although wheel bolt tightening sequence is also important in this respect - see below. However, spigot rings won’t solve the issue of misalignment of the bolt holes in the wheels with those in the wheel hubs if the PCD of the wheels is something other than 5x112.

A few other important points to note;

• Most aftermarket alloys use bolts with a conical seat and OEM alloys use bolts with a radius / ball seat. It’s important to use the correct bolts where the profile of the bolt seat matches the profile of the bolt holes in the wheels. Use of the correct bolts when torqued to the manufacturer’s torque spec should ensure the correct clamping force is achieved between wheel and hub, prevent undue stress being exerted on the wheel bolts and stop the wheels working loose while driving.
• Bolts should be tightened in a star pattern to minimise the risk of vibration. When the car is jacked up to fit the alloys, the bolts should initially be hand tightened (in a star pattern). When the car is lowered to the ground, the bolts should then tightened to the car manufacturers torque setting in the same star sequence - as per the picture below;

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• Fitting different alloys to those fitted by Seat when the car was built is a modification for insurance purposes, so it’s important to inform your insurer; not doing so could invalidate your insurance cover.

Thanks for the message I am going to confirm with a tire mechanic later on if they are in fact 5x112 to be fair the previous mechanic I took it to could hardly speak English he couldn’t explain why I just heard him say something along the lines off the bolt on the wheel is slightly higher to the wheel hub and then mentioned something about because they’re 19 inches the person I bought these off said they are definitely 5x112 assuming they are 5x112 would spigot rings solve the problem off one bolt being slightly higher I’m not to sure I’m not very knowledgeable in terms of this stuff I will find out tonight from the mechanic and post a reply on what he says Worst case I just have to resell these and buy others but many thanks for the reply greatly appreciated

 

[nd-photo.nl]

Couple things to know/check:

• Aftermarket wheels use tapered bolts in 99% of the cases (original wheels use the radius)
• Aftermarket wheels are 99% bought with biggest centre hole instead of what your car actually needs, in other words you need spigot rings
• Wheels from reputable sources have the specifications of the wheel stamped on the inside of the wheel (on the hart or spokes). Things like ET value and PCD
• Original wheel bolts normally have a length of 27/28mm

 

[Seriously?]

Hi @Hussainahmdd - I’m might be misunderstanding your post but assuming I’m not, I'm struggling to understand how just one of the five bolts didn’t line up with the bolt hole in your car’s wheel hub assembly. If the Bola alloys are 5x112 then all bolt holes in the alloys should line up exactly with the bolt holes in your car’s wheel hub. If the PCD is anything other than 5x112 then you‘d probably only be able to get the first bolt to fit correctly.

With any alloy wheels I’ve had - either the OEM originals fitted to the car or aftermarket alloys I’ve bought - the spec of the wheels (the ‘J’ size, diameter, offset, PCD / bolt pattern, centre bore size etc.) has been cast into the reverse side of the spokes. Assuming Bola do this with their alloys, then the PCD / bolt pattern (5x112 if that’s what yours actually are) should be one of the spec details cast into the back of the spokes. Checking the reverse of the spokes should hopefully confirm whether or not they are the correct fitment for your car.

Most aftermarket alloys do have ‘oversized’ centre bores - this is to maximise the number of vehicle makes that the wheels can be fitted to, so maximises alloy wheel sales for the wheel’s manufacturers. As has been said, spigot rings of the appropriate size will reduce the centre bore size of the Bola’s down to 57.1 (the centre bore size for most VAG cars) and will help to centre the wheel on the wheel hub when mounting the wheels on the car. Spigot rings may also help minimise or eliminate any potential wheel wobble / vibration that might be present if spigot rings aren’t used, although wheel bolt tightening sequence is also important in this respect - see below. However, spigot rings won’t solve the issue of misalignment of the bolt holes in the wheels with those in the wheel hubs if the PCD of the wheels is something other than 5x112.

A few other important points to note;

• Most aftermarket alloys use bolts with a conical seat and OEM alloys use bolts with a radius / ball seat. It’s important to use the correct bolts where the profile of the bolt seat matches the profile of the bolt holes in the wheels. Use of the correct bolts when torqued to the manufacturer’s torque spec should ensure the correct clamping force is achieved between wheel and hub, prevent undue stress being exerted on the wheel bolts and stop the wheels working loose while driving.
• Bolts should be tightened in a star pattern to minimise the risk of vibration. When the car is jacked up to fit the alloys, the bolts should initially be hand tightened (in a star pattern). When the car is lowered to the ground, the bolts should then tightened to the car manufacturers torque setting in the same star sequence - as per the picture below;

View attachment 47979

• Fitting different alloys to those fitted by Seat when the car was built is a modification for insurance purposes, so it’s important to inform your insurer; not doing so could invalidate your insurance cover.

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It's the reason I asked.
Bola do custom PCD'S for any style of wheel.