1.2 tsi or 1.6 TDI CR 90 HP ?

[hstjern]

My dealer is having a special deal on at the moment where I can get the 1.2 tsi style and 1.6 tdi 90 hp style for the same price.

This is the 5 door version though :-( but it such a good deal on both (about 2000-3000 pounds less from listed price) so I don't mind.

The GF has the old 1.4 85 HP and when I test drove the 1.2 tsi it feelt a lot nipper and more fun to drive.
Haven't tried the TDI yet as he hasn't received the cars yet.


So what would you guys recommend ?

Cheers
Hans

 

[jc_boc]

I believe the 1.2 is 105hp so it is higher up on the power table and turbo charged and from what I have read everyone that has got one so far is absolutely loving it.

 

[Oj 89]

Depends what you want the car for. Now that the 1.2 has a turbo, any remaps will give better gains, but the 1.6TDi probably has even more potential than that, and better mpg. If you do a lot of travelling or want a gain in mpg over the old 1.4, get the tdi. If you don't like the idea of diesel, get the petrol...

Just looked up parkers for comparison.

1.2TSi

1.6TDi

on paper, TDi will be more to insure, same to tax, 10mpg more and 6mph less at top whack. Hope this helps.

 

[hstjern]

Thanks for the quick replies so far

Don't to long drives really, and have read a bit about the DPF problem others have here on the forum.
So leaning towards the Petrol one.

It was more that since the price is exactly the same on them, and the diesel is more expensive so it feels like you get a better deal.

Have to decide on a colour as well lol, have 44 to choose from, black metallic, silver metallic, red and white, might leave that up to the GF... ;-)

 

[markmeus]

I dont think SEAT do the 90bhp 1.6 TDI in the UK, so it would be the 105.

MPG will be nowhere near 65mpg, more like 55.

1.2 TSI is probably the one to go for.

 

[naddan28]

I've got the 1.2 TSI 5 door sport just hit 850 miles and it's great fun. Loads of torque & very nippy. I get around 42mpg at the mo as I've been running it in (started in the mid 30s).

 

[hstjern]

Markmeus, have to ask you since you drive the TDI sport.
Is it a huge difference between the standard ibiza and sport in terms of roadnoise and with the sport suspension ?
Read some review where they said they could feel every little pothole with the sport version of the Ibiza.

 

[J400uk]

1.2 tsi

 

[markmeus]

Markmeus, have to ask you since you drive the TDI sport.
Is it a huge difference between the standard ibiza and sport in terms of roadnoise and with the sport suspension ?
Read some review where they said they could feel every little pothole with the sport version of the Ibiza.

It's firm, but I wouldn't say it's uncomfortable, I've never driver a normal Ibiza so don't have anything to compare it too, apart from my old mk3 which was nowhere near as comfortable.

Roadnoise can be a little loud at times, but only on roads that have been resurfaced with loose chippings rather than proper tarmac, and I think it's more to do with the Pirelli tyres which I will be changing for something else when the times comes, as they're not the best in the wet and useless in snow.

 

[grant 123]

way up all your options, road tax, insurance etc... may help you swing towards one over the other.

heard nothing but good things about the 1.2 tsi

 

[hstjern]

Well since I'm currently located in Sweden both the 1.2 TSI and all diesels 1.6 are free from roadtax, same with insurance, same thing really.
Haven't driven the 1.6 105 HP in the Ibiza but did have a Golf Rental with the same engine and it feelt a but....dull to be honest. But again, its a lot heavier.

THe reason why I was leaning more to the TDI currently is that I can get a great deal on it. But having read about the issues with the DPF and after the testdrive in the 1.2 the other day I got second thoughts about it.

Maybe I'll hang on to my Cordoba Vario for a bit longer untill my dealer get a 1.2 TSI SC in, for some reason the 3 door versions isn't as popular as 5 in Abba land....

 

[Oj 89]

Abba land....

Off topic I know, but

 

[hstjern]

This isn't getting any easier....
Decided on the 1.2 Ibiza and was gona head over to get a quote what it was gona set me back getting it in the SC version.
On the way there I decided to have a testdrive of the new Suzuki Swift, now I'm even more confused, it really was great fun to drive and comfortwise if was on par with the Ibiza. Lookswise, the Suzuki is a bit to much granny for my liking, but still it was flippin great fun to drive...

 

[Biker]

But having read about the issues with the DPF and after the testdrive in the 1.2 the other day I got second thoughts about it.

TBH, I think the DPF issues were more related to the early cars, I have a 2010 1.6 CR tdi Sport it is ten months old and has done 11,600 miles. To date I have had no DPF lights and have only noticed it do a regen on two occasions, it probably has done more but I have not noticed them.
My car is mainly used for my commute to work, which is a round trip of 13 miles and it handles this low mileage no problem. About once a month I do a 600 mile round trip to visit my son, hence the mileage on the car but as far as owning a car with a DPF filter, from my experience I would say it has made no difference to me what so ever.

In conclusion the 1.6 CR tdi is still worth considering!

 

[ozzyfizzle]

In my opinion...Suzuki swift id nowhere near as stylish as an Ibiza

I’d go for the petrol. My last car was a diesel fast, good on fuel, but i just hated noise of the engine and the lack of revs.

If you want something revvy, nippy and fun to drive go for the petrol

1.2 TSI I’d say

 

[Beenz]

You tend to hear about the problems on most forums, very few people post anything if its all working well. It's the same here with the DPF. My car has done 4.5K and so far no DPF light. Cheap to run and cheap to tax.

 

[markmeus]

You tend to hear about the problems on most forums, very few people post anything if its all working well. It's the same here with the DPF. My car has done 4.5K and so far no DPF light. Cheap to run and cheap to tax.

Beenz is right, ive racked up over 13,000 miles and had the car 12 months and the only thing to go wrong was the boot handle, which stopped working. Never had a DPF light, and I rarely ever feel it do a DPF regen.

I love the car, there's nothing else on the market for the same money that i'd consider.

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[h34ds]

In my opinion...Suzuki swift id nowhere near as stylish as an Ibiza

I’d go for the petrol. My last car was a diesel fast, good on fuel, but i just hated noise of the engine and the lack of revs.

If you want something revvy, nippy and fun to drive go for the petrol

1.2 TSI I’d say

I think you may change your mind when they release the 1.6 turbo 220bhp version. Then i am sure it would be worth considering


I personally after driving the 1.9 tdi, 1.6 cdti and the 2.0 tdi fr and te cupra i would go for the 1.2 tsi engine, if it is as good as the 1.4 its a no brainer

 

[NetworkMan]

It really depends on the number of short trips you do. If there are not many and the annual mileage is enough then the DPF diesel makes sense. Many short trips and the diesel will have to run active regeneration cycles to clear the trapped carbon from the DPF. If the trip is short then the regeneration cycle may not finish and things get worse. All this hits the MPG and the cost saving becomes less. Too much less and you'll never recover the extra cost over a petrol (though for the Ibiza Sport this is not as great as for some others).

I believe I posted this link before:-

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/diesel-particulate-filters/

The stuff on VAG DPF starts about half way down the page.