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revo stage 1

strapper

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Jul 16, 2006
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ayrshire
I've had my onvi cupra since may it definetly has been remapped that lad who sold thae car to me said it was revo, but he wasn't very nollageable about them. I fitted a boost gauge and the car is boosting to 15psi is that abou right for revo or any other remap?
The car does feel really quick and I know it definetly has been mapped as it boosts more aggresive than my old cupra r.
Reason I ask this is because I have bough a decat downpipe and hope to upgrade my software to stage 2.
 
andycupra

andycupra

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Aug 18, 2003
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until tomorrow, i just keep moving on...
revo 1 on standard settings usually peaks at 20-21 but not for long.

you can adjust the settings using an sps, which he may have done.
if you run lower boost settings it will tend to peak less, its perfectly possible it was set up to have more linear boost, perhaps its at low boost 6-7 (old sps settings).

Reasons why they may have done this?
1 could be the fuel he usually used,
2 to make it easier to put the power down.
3 as the ibiza doesnt have very good cooling (intercooler) it may have been set lower to try and counter act heat issues.
4 some prefer the drive lower settings give you.

IMO a otherwise standard but remapped ibiza would probably run well on conservative boost settings.

have you tried an ecu reset?

see if there is anyone around with an sps to experiment.
 
djscorch

djscorch

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Jun 30, 2006
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Manchester
I'm running Stage 1 Revo and it only boosts to 16/17 max but holds it quite well.

I'd be interested to know if it was down to SPS settings.
 

strapper

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Jul 16, 2006
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just been to my local revo dealer. I asked him if he could check that the car did actually have revo. Guess what? It doesn't! I am leadind to believe that it may be an apr mp as it was remapped at star performance and they used to deal with apr. I know it's not a custom map as the power tails of about 5000-500rpm.
 
andycupra

andycupra

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until tomorrow, i just keep moving on...
power does tend to drop off early with the K03 turbo the ibiza has. custom map may reduce this a bit.

apr can still hit 21, at least on the leons it does. briefly.
if its holding boost well at 15/16 then id not worry, it is more than twice the stock boost.
 
Robbie C

Robbie C

Jan 8, 2007
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Wiltshire
Dragging an old thread back up but as above have just fitted my boost gauge this morning and been for a drive and noticed I only peak at 18 PSI (sometimes just 16-17 in different gears), holding at about 13-15 on average when on WOT.

I have a Revo Stg 1 map which I was also always led to beleive peaked in the early 20s.

Should I be looking for small boost leaks or get hold of an SPS and check the settings?

I'm running 99RON V Power and it's fairly cool outside today
 
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Robbie C

Robbie C

Jan 8, 2007
2,958
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Wiltshire
OK, decided to scan for DTCs with VAG COM tonight and got the following:

18087 - EPC Warning Lamp (K132) Circuit: Open
P1679 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

18099 - Malfunction Indication Light (K83): Open Circuit
P1691 - 35-00 - -

These don't appear to be listed in RossTech's wiki and the only related post I can find is http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1525648

After taking the car out for ~90 miles tonight I cannot exceed a peak boost of 17PSI, but the car seems fine

I think I'll start by replacing all my std vac hoses with silicone ones to try and eliminate any possible boost leaks but I'd like to know what the above codes mean and whether they could be related.

Any ideas???
 
Robbie C

Robbie C

Jan 8, 2007
2,958
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Wiltshire
Ok cleared these codes last night, replaced my std vac hoses that I'd left in place for the N249 bypass, as well as the inlet mani -> FPR line and have been for a drive since. Re-checked this afternoon an no faults whatsoever.

Still boosting exactly the same - only 3rd/4th/5th seem to hit 17PSI, 1st and 2nd hit 15

I've logged the MAF and it doesn't exceed 160g/s at 5,000 RPM so all seems fine there

If I acquire a proper license for VAG COM I may try logging blocks 032 (Fuel Trims) and 115 to see the specified vs actual boost. I'm assuming specified should show 21 psi at peak?

Anything else I should check in the mean time? I may go round the engine bay later in the week with brake cleaner to see if I can find any other possible leaks - I'm thinking the PCV valve for one.
 
Robbie C

Robbie C

Jan 8, 2007
2,958
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Wiltshire
On it :) Got a license sorted and have just been out and logged block 115 (specified vs actual) and got the following:

(Excuse the messy log - I was driving alone so had to start logging before I set off and just went for a quick "lap" of my surrounding road, going on WOT when it was safe to do so)

Code: 
Sunday	12	October	2008	17:20:55	
6K0 906 032 AA		1.8L 20VT EU3       0002			

	Group A:	'115			
		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.
	TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar
	0	840	18.8	990	1010
	0.55	840	18.8	990	1010
	1.11	880	27.1	990	1010
	1.7	1040	39.1	990	1010
	2.3	1280	56.4	990	1010
	2.9	1040	59.4	990	1030
	3.4	1360	54.9	990	1030
	4	1760	54.9	990	1040
	4.6	2200	60.2	990	1050
	5.16	2600	61.7	990	1090
	5.78	3200	92.5	1440	1270
	6.43	3400	29.3	990	1450
	7.01	2360	45.1	990	1070
	7.6	2480	66.9	1020	1090
	8.21	2720	74.4	1000	1200
	8.81	2960	72.9	990	1250
	9.31	3200	94	1220	1270
	9.81	3440	90.2	1180	1340
	10.41	3800	133.8	2290	1600
	11.08	4440	180.5	2230	2260
	11.68	5000	167.7	2030	2040
	12.27	4560	18.8	990	1430
	12.81	3400	82.7	1790	1030
	13.45	3680	147.4	1870	1870
	14.02	3920	160.2	2240	1960
	14.61	4280	183.5	1970	2350
	15.23	3440	11.3	990	1240
	15.8	3240	5.3	990	1080
	16.31	3240	7.5	990	1050
	16.93	3160	8.3	990	1040
	17.66	2960	9	990	1040
	18.29	2720	9	990	1030
	18.8	2560	9	990	1030
	19.31	2520	9	990	1020
	19.91	1960	9	990	1030
	20.5	2640	16.5	990	1090
	21.01	2560	11.3	990	1050
	21.6	2280	10.5	990	1030
	22.2	1920	58.6	990	1000
	22.8	2200	12	990	1050
	23.46	2280	12	990	1030
	24.1	1960	9.8	990	1030
	24.7	1520	9.8	990	1030
	25.29	1200	20.3	990	1020
	25.79	1000	17.3	990	1020
	26.3	880	18.8	990	1020
	26.89	920	29.3	990	1010
	27.39	1160	57.9	990	1010
	27.89	1680	71.4	1030	1040
	28.39	2200	73.7	990	1160
	29.04	2800	75.9	1060	1270
	29.71	3600	109	2040	1360
	30.35	4880	142.1	990	2330
	30.91	3440	57.9	1490	1090
	31.5	3320	135.3	1950	1680
	32.09	3880	183.5	2360	2390
	32.61	4440	182.7	2250	2330
	33.2	4400	60.2	990	1900
	33.79	3400	16.5	1870	1120
	34.4	3240	125.6	1610	1580
	35.03	3360	28.6	990	1230
	35.7	3280	11.3	990	1080
	36.41	3200	7.5	990	1040
	36.99	3160	8.3	990	1040
	37.59	3120	8.3	990	1030
	38.19	3080	8.3	990	1030
	38.8	3040	8.3	990	1030
	39.39	3000	8.3	990	1030
	39.9	2800	8.3	990	1030
	40.49	2560	8.3	990	1030
	41.22	2480	8.3	990	1030
	41.86	2520	37.6	990	1000
	42.46	2600	85.7	1440	1120
	43	2800	104.5	1560	1430
	43.6	3000	120.3	1650	1570
	44.2	3200	147.4	2120	1790
	44.78	3520	191.7	2360	2480
	45.39	3440	65.4	990	1800
	45.98	2800	88.7	1810	1080
	46.48	3000	112	1430	1570
	47.01	3080	97.7	1390	1350
	47.72	3200	133.1	1990	1660
	48.37	3360	174.4	2210	2290
	48.88	3600	172.9	1600	2270
	49.49	3600	24.8	990	1220
	50.08	3600	7.5	990	1090
	50.68	3560	7.5	990	1050
	51.2	3520	8.3	990	1050
	51.81	3480	53.4	990	1030
	52.4	3520	94	1440	1320
	53.04	3640	163.9	2360	2030
	53.64	3840	191.7	2350	2470
	54.31	4040	176.7	2320	2260
	54.89	4160	82	990	2000
	55.48	4040	6.8	990	1150
	56.08	3760	6.8	990	1070
	56.58	3640	7.5	990	1050
	57.18	3600	18.8	990	1030
	57.69	3640	89.5	1180	1140
	58.2	3680	104.5	1580	1340
	58.79	3760	170.7	2360	2140
	59.5	3840	168.4	1000	2530
	60.16	3680	8.3	1000	1130
	60.68	3280	6	1000	1060
	61.19	3160	75.2	1000	1030
	61.79	3400	6.8	1000	1080
	62.38	3520	12.8	1000	1050
	62.89	3520	42.9	1000	1020
	63.39	3640	92.5	1070	1320
	63.98	3800	118	1970	1440
	64.59	4120	182.7	2320	2340
	65.2	4440	182	2220	2300
	65.92	4320	39.8	1000	1690
	66.51	3520	6	1000	1110
	67.08	3280	69.2	1590	990
	67.58	3720	13.5	1000	1220
	68.08	3480	6.8	1000	1090
	68.67	3400	7.5	1000	1050
	69.29	3400	12	1000	1040
	69.88	3400	60.9	1040	1030
	70.48	3600	104.5	1650	1340
	71.11	3800	169.2	2330	2120
	71.75	3280	21.8	1000	1340
	72.33	3040	9.8	1000	1090
	72.88	3000	9.8	1000	1050
	73.47	3040	25.6	1000	1030
	73.97	3000	57.9	1000	1040
	74.49	3040	91	1180	1270
	75.07	3120	96.2	1300	1350
	75.68	3160	19.5	1000	1190
	76.27	3160	8.3	1000	1070
	76.88	3160	8.3	1000	1050
	77.61	3040	8.3	1000	1040
	78.26	2720	8.3	1000	1040
	78.81	3360	51.9	1000	1180
	79.38	3080	8.3	1000	1080
	79.97	2920	8.3	1000	1050
	80.57	2920	8.3	1000	1040
	81.17	2880	8.3	1000	1040
	81.67	2840	8.3	1000	1030
	82.27	2800	8.3	1000	1030
	82.87	2760	8.3	1000	1030
	83.54	2760	8.3	1000	1030
	84.17	2720	8.3	1000	1030
	84.82	2640	8.3	1000	1030
	85.38	2640	24.1	1000	1020
	85.99	2640	52.6	1000	1040
	86.58	2760	88.7	1370	1220
	87.18	2960	107.5	1430	1410
	87.8	3040	43.6	1000	1230
	88.39	3120	12	1000	1090
	89	3080	9	1000	1050
	89.71	2560	9	1000	1040
	90.33	2440	8.3	1000	1040
	90.88	2440	8.3	1000	1040
	91.46	2440	8.3	1000	1040
	92.09	2440	8.3	1000	1040
	92.67	2400	8.3	1000	1040
	93.26	2400	8.3	1000	1040
	93.86	2360	8.3	1000	1040
	94.46	2360	39.8	1000	1020
	95.11	2440	73.7	1010	1100
	95.78	2560	87.2	1130	1360
	96.44	2680	85	1150	1350
	96.96	2400	14.3	1000	1150
	97.56	2280	26.3	1000	1050
	98.07	2280	70.7	1000	1080
	98.66	2320	72.2	1000	1220
	99.17	2400	69.2	1000	1220
	99.76	2400	36.1	1000	1160
	100.38	2400	12.8	1000	1070
	100.97	2400	8.3	1000	1050
	101.62	2400	8.3	1000	1040
	102.22	2360	8.3	1000	1040
	102.76	1960	9	1000	1040
	103.37	2600	10.5	1000	1100
	103.96	2440	10.5	1000	1060
	104.46	3160	75.2	1000	1060
	105.07	2640	9.8	1000	1090
	105.67	3080	70.7	1000	1080
	106.27	2880	8.3	1000	1090
	106.87	2400	9.8	1000	1050
	107.61	1880	8.3	1000	1040
	108.24	1360	9	1000	1040
	108.76	1080	20.3	1000	1030
	109.36	920	16.5	1000	1020
	109.96	840	23.3	1000	1020
	110.56	840	20.3	1000	1020
	111.17	880	18.8	1000	1020
	111.77	840	18	1000	1020
	112.36	840	18.8	1000	1020
	112.95	840	17.3	1000	1020
	113.53	920	39.1	1000	1020
	114.13	760	64.7	1170	1020
	114.65	1120	54.9	1000	1040
	115.15	1200	52.6	1000	105

I assume I'm correct in thinking that Column 3 is specified boost and column 4 is actual - in which case it looks as though everything is OK

I think I need to call the Revo dealer who set this up to see what settings he applied

Any other thoughts from anyone?
 
Robbie C

Robbie C

Jan 8, 2007
2,958
1
Wiltshire
Just checked PSI -> millibar and 21psi equates to ~1448 millibars, yet my max requested boost appears to be 2360 (34psi?!)

Could be way off here but should I be discounting 14psi for normal atmospheric pressure? That would make more sense with my 990mbar readings which I assume would have been recorded while off boost, equating to 14.35psi

This would make my peak boost 20psi at 3,800 - 4,200 RPM going by my interpretation of this log
 
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