LC logs after ATP Manifold & Forge TIP fitted

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

Revo Stage 2. Std Paper Filter in airbox (with cold feed)
T7 HB8
Air temp 8.5 degrees

Code:

Group A:	'003			Group B:	'020		
Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC				
 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
2080	27.92	18.8	21.8	0	0	0.8	0
2160	28.89	17.3	21.8	0	0	0	0
2280	46.92	74.9	20.3	0	3	4.5	4.5
2440	66.39	100	9.8	0	3	4.5	4.5
2640	91.31	100	4.5	0	3	4.5	4.5
2880	108.64	100	0.8	0	3	3.8	3.8
3120	116.81	100	3	0	2.3	3.8	3.8
3320	120.14	100	3	0	2.3	3.8	3
3560	129.75	100	2.3	0	2.3	3	3
3800	137.75	100	0.8	0	1.5	3	3
4000	142.28	100	1.5	0	1.5	2.3	2.3
4240	149.19	100	1.5	0	1.5	2.3	2.3
4440	154.47	99.6	1.5	0	0.8	2.3	2.3
4640	158.42	100	4.5	0	0.8	1.5	1.5
4800	161.86	100	4.5	0	0.8	1.5	1.5
5000	165.36	100	6.8	0	0	0.8	0.8
5120	170.03	100	6	0	0	0.8	0.8
5280	174.53	100	5.3	0	0	0.8	0.8
5440	174.31	100	6	0	0	0	0
5560	176.22	100	7.5	0	0	0	0
5720	177.75	99.6	7.5	0	0	0	0
5840	177.89	100	8.3	0	0	0	0
6000	180.69	100	8.3	0	0	0	0
6120	181.25	100	8.3	0	0	0	0
6240	182.67	100	9	0	0	0	0
6320	184.78	100	9	0	0	0	0
6400	185.14	100	9.8	0	0	0	0
6520	184.06	100	10.5	0	0	0	0
6560	184.06	100	11.3	0	0	0	0
6640	185.5	99.6	12	0	0	0	0
6760	185.14	100	12.8	0	0	0	0


Group A:	'115			Group B:	'031	        	        
Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost	Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor	        	        
700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar			        	        
 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar			        	        
2240	36.1	1010	1030	0.875	1	        	        
2280	73.7	1140	1220	1	1	        	        
2400	73.7	1140	1300	0.906	1	        	        
2520	126.3	2280	1660	1.008	1	        	        
2760	176.7	2400	2350	0.977	0.953	        	        
2960	186.5	2450	2540	0.867	0.852	        	        
3160	189.5	2420	2480	0.821	0.836	        	        
3400	191	2350	2420	0.828	0.836	        	        
3640	188.7	2340	2390	0.828	0.836	        	        
3840	187.2	2360	2370	0.828	0.836	        	        
4040	183.5	2380	2380	0.821	0.836	        	        
4240	183.5	2350	2360	0.821	0.836	        	        
4400	180.5	2310	2320	0.821	0.836	        	        
4600	178.2	2280	2290	0.828	0.836	        	        
4720	175.9	2250	2260	0.821	0.836	        	        
4920	170.7	2220	2190	0.821	0.836	        	        
5080	171.4	2200	2190	0.828	0.836	        	        
5240	170.7	2160	2170	0.813	0.836	        	        
5400	166.9	2150	2140	0.836	0.836	        	        
5520	164.7	2130	2120	0.821	0.836	        	        
5680	163.2	2080	2070	0.821	0.836	        	        
5800	162.4	2040	2040	0.821	0.836	        	        
5960	158.6	2010	2020	0.821	0.836	        	        
6080	156.4	2000	1970	0.821	0.836
6200	152.6	1980	1980	0.828	0.836
6320	151.9	1980	1980	0.821	0.836
6400	151.1	1980	1980	0.821	0.836
6520	28.6	980	1860	0.836	1.047
5000	12	980	1080	0.828	0.813


Group A:	'118			Group B:	'032
Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost	Idle O2 Adapt	Run O2 Adapt
700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar	-10.1	-10.1
 /min	°C	%	 mbar	%	%
2000	39	0	1040	0	-3.1
2040	40	95.3	1050	0	-3.1
2200	42	95.3	1400	0	-3.1
2360	43	95.3	1750	0	-3.1
2560	44	95.3	2190	0	-3.1
2800	45	83.9	2540	0	-3.1
3040	46	84.3	2530	0	-3.1
3280	48	82.4	2430	0	-3.1
3520	50	80.4	2400	0	-3.1
3760	51	80.8	2380	0	-3.1
3960	54	80.4	2390	0	-3.1
4200	57	79.2	2410	0	-3.1
4400	59	79.6	2330	0	-3.1
4600	61	79.2	2270	0	-3.1
4840	63	79.6	2220	0	-3.1
5040	66	79.2	2180	0	-3.1
5200	67	79.2	2170	0	-3.1
5360	69	80.8	2140	0	-3.1
5560	71	79.2	2110	0	-3.1
5720	72	79.6	2070	0	-3.1
5840	74	79.2	2050	0	-3.1
5960	76	77.3	2000	0	-3.1
6120	76	77.3	1970	0	-3.1
6200	78	77.6	1940	0	-3.1
6320	78	76.9	1940	0	-3.1
5520	71	0	1130	0	-3.1

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

nice figures dave, I guess a fmic is next?
Funnily enough my figures are similar minus your new atp mani but with fmic, will be interesting to see if thats what you go for next.

gazjones · Jan 7, 2007

good g/s looks like the tip has helped that! feel better with the tip? also manifold should be helping as well having better flow to the turbo

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

cordobabrendy said:
nice figures dave, I guess a fmic is next?
Funnily enough my figures are similar minus your new atp mani but with fmic, will be interesting to see if thats what you go for next.

Don't! I'm supposed to be selling it and buying a LHD truck in France - but hey - haven't sold the house yet!

Yes, I suppose FMIC is next - actually before that I'm going to get a new foam core for my RamAir and get that back on. You had no issues there, Brendy?

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

gazjones said:
good g/s looks like the tip has helped that! feel better with the tip? also manifold should be helping as well having better flow to the turbo

Cheers. I've had better g/s with the RamAir on, but yes it feels like it's responding more quickly.

gazjones · Jan 7, 2007

cool getting mine soon manifold seems interesting if going big turbo eventually might be worth getting that first running with it for a while till funds allow bt. can only benifit the ko3s i would think

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

gazjones said:
cool getting mine soon manifold seems interesting if going big turbo eventually might be worth getting that first running with it for a while till funds allow bt. can only benifit the ko3s i would think

ATP mani is a pain to fit, but worth it I think. If you are thinking of going BT later, I'd really consider getting the bottom LH corner of it ground down as per Myk3 (sp?) suggestion. Otherwise (like me) the bugger would have to come off again first.

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

nope matey, ive had my ramair well over a year and done over 25k on it, its been out and washed thoroughly twice and still sucks like a dyson. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on a new heatshield for it though as i tried to touch up my paintwork on it and it managed to fall and put a small dent on it.

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

cordobabrendy said:
nope matey, ive had my ramair well over a year and done over 25k on it, its been out and washed thoroughly twice and still sucks like a dyson. I wouldnt mind getting my hands on a new heatshield for it though as i tried to touch up my paintwork on it and it managed to fall and put a small dent on it.

Impressive! You didn't re-treat it after you washed it?
I've got a price from RamAir for a cone - would you like me to find out how much for a heatshield for you?

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

Ive got pipercross shizzle left from my old 16v biut the amount i put on was barely negligable. If you could find out the price that'd be great mate. I kind of liked the look of it (below in my sig) s it matched my tip etc.

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

cordobabrendy said:
Ive got pipercross shizzle left from my old 16v biut the amount i put on was barely negligable. If you could find out the price that'd be great mate. I kind of liked the look of it (below in my sig) s it matched my tip etc.

Yeah, your RamAir (sig) is nearly as subtle as my car.

Give me a few days, I'll get you a price.

On cleaning, I got the gear from Bill and did what it said on the tin. ****ed up 5 MAFs after that............ Hence I'm running a paper filter at the Mo. You got a DP now?

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

not yet, im really torn between a exchange for an evo5/6 or sticking with the leon for another year, i know the dp will make a difference but just cant bring myself to part with 3-400 quid for one.Saying that though, the bloke that did my powerflow cat back has said that he will fab me up a 2 1/2" downpipe and mate it to my existing cat for 150 quid sounds tempting.

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

cordobabrendy said:
Saying that though, the bloke that did my powerflow cat back has said that he will fab me up a 2 1/2" downpipe and mate it to my existing cat for 150 quid sounds tempting.

Ask him if he'd do you a 2.75" for similar and go for it (assuming it includes a flexi). You've done it all then barring the turbo. Hell, the sunroof must be worth 15bhp - well perhaps 6 bhp at this time of year..............

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

there was a £50 quid difference going from 2.25 to 2.5" Im not sure if he has 2.75, ill need to ask him. My only concern is that he is butchering a perfectly good (and only) downpipe. How many cells is the std cat anyway? is it worthwhile?
Even in this weather the sunroof is brilliant, you can fully tilt it and no rain comes in, ive left it open overnight recently and got in the next morningt and theres not a drop of rain in.

ibizacupra · Jan 7, 2007

DPJ said:
Yeah, your RamAir (sig) is nearly as subtle as my car.

Give me a few days, I'll get you a price.

On cleaning, I got the gear from Bill and did what it said on the tin. ****ed up 5 MAFs after that............ Hence I'm running a paper filter at the Mo. You got a DP now?

if in doubt blot it out.

MrsB lupo 24 months on its still running fine and dandy on its RamAir, zero MAF problems ever. Go figure.

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

Im only on my 2nd maf, I still dont think the ramair did anything to the original as it was clean when removed and the readings were really wierd, only reading around 0.75 gs or something iirc.

DPJ · Jan 7, 2007

ibizacupra said:
if in doubt blot it out.

MrsB lupo 24 months on its still running fine and dandy on its RamAir, zero MAF problems ever. Go figure.

Like you said to me before Bill, I must have over treated it. I reckon a new foam core and I've learnt my lesson......

One of many.

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

dave, if your foam core is still intact, fill a bucket with hot water and fairy liquid and steep it for a while, rub it and try to remove as much crap off it , let it dry upside down then refit it. if thats your only problem with it the fiary will break down the oils.

ibizacupra · Jan 7, 2007

hands that do dishes................

mild green......................

cordobabrendy · Jan 7, 2007

i used a white bucket not that long ago, you would be surprised by the amount of sh1t that fairy pulls out of the sponge.
saying that, no amount of induction kit oiling would cause this.... click on the image... ill put 1p up for whoever can tell me what caused this!

LC logs after ATP Manifold & Forge TIP fitted

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