UltraXenon Bulbs - any good?

m.r.davies · Nov 16, 2006

Hi

I've done a search and people seem to be going on about phillips bulbs

Just popped to Motorworld to get a new bulb for the mrs 206, and they have a good offer on blubs

I got ultraXenon bulbs for £15.99 from £25.99
they have this deal on all performance bubls at the moment

The guy reckons they will fit my LCR too.
So i was thinking of giving her mine and putting in the UltraXenons

So my questions are:
What are these bulbs like? is it worth the upgrade?
Is there one type of bulb out there that is amazing (not xenon) and how much will it cost for 2

Cheers
Mark

m.r.davies · Nov 16, 2006

Just been on powerbulb.com and they seem to be harping on about
PowerPlus H7 - they got a buy one get one free deal on at the mo for £29 delivered (4 bulbs)

So, are the ultraxenon's better or worse than these? if so by how much?
Also, anyone tried both powerblue and powerplus ?

Nathanio · Nov 16, 2006

I had Osram silverstars and they were goooood but i have now swapped to HIDs and you can't compare them. Save up for HIDs rather than spending money on bulbs as the technology unfortunately has hit its limits.

The Phillip equivilant bulbs are good too

m.r.davies · Nov 16, 2006

thanks mate

Aren't the HID bulbs illegal? if not then i might be intrested, how much?
I read there is a kit for £700 which is legal.

I've looked on powerbulbs.com for the philips ones but not sure which ones i need? are they the GT150's ?

Nathanio · Nov 16, 2006

Its a bit of a grey area tbh and has been discussed numerous times. Several people on here have contacted the DfT and been told conflicting information about if their ok or not.

A maintained set i.e. lenses cleaned regularly and properly adjusted shouldn't cause any issues

http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/product...eHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=92

Their the phillips ones

hungabunga · Nov 16, 2006

slightly off topic but still about bulbs, are these any good H.I.D for £230 https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/product.php?productid=16382&cat=622&page=1

m.r.davies · Nov 16, 2006

Nathanio said:
Its a bit of a grey area tbh and has been discussed numerous times. Several people on here have contacted the DfT and been told conflicting information about if their ok or not.

A maintained set i.e. lenses cleaned regularly and properly adjusted shouldn't cause any issues

http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/product...eHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=92

Their the phillips ones

thanks mate

So i'll notice a big difference with phillips then?
I read somewhere the HID conversion was between 70-100
is that true

tedvagas · Nov 16, 2006

hi

i fitted some upgrade bulbs from ,autobulbsdirect.co.uk
they were £8 inc p&p they look great not sure what make they were but every one thinks there real, hid!

DamoR · Nov 16, 2006

HIDs should have washer jets but lets be honest you would have to be pretty unlucky to get pulled over by a clued up copper who noticed! I haven't heard of anybody failing an MOT yet either because of HIDs. What's the worst that could happen - you have to put your standard headlamps back in!!!! As the HID kits are generic then you can just sell them! Doubt you would be pulled though and if you were consider yourself extremely unlucky and a minority. I have heard of some HID kits failing so do your research and buy a reliable make. I've been thinking about this mod for a while now but now I've got to replace a broken headlamp I'm going to buy some HIDs on payday...Upgraded bulbs can be an improvement but might as well but the £35 quid towards some HIDs

m.r.davies · Nov 17, 2006

thanks guys,
I must say you got me intrested in HID's now

So 10 points to those who can answer the following

1. How much will a decent kit cost
B. Do they need cooling
5. Why should they have washer jets?

Cowie · Nov 17, 2006

i got a set of HID's from unikarl,not sure if was a GB on SCC but they cost £130,they don't need cooling,are easy to fit and why HID's need washer jets i just dont know mate.
you cant compare them to normal bulbs at all,i rarely use my main beam at all now!
thats not to say i'm blinding everyone,have never been told to 'dip my beam' if u know what i mean lol

DamoR · Nov 17, 2006

This extract was taken from www.autobulbsdirect.com:

Are these HID systems road legal?
According to EU legislation HID systems factory fitted from new require a self levelling system and a lens washer to be fitted. However this is not specified for aftermarket kits. Our kits have passed all safety and emmissions tests and produce the correct light pattern. We know they will pass an MOT (original bulbs can be reinstalled in minutes if required without uninstalling the HID system). We are not aware of any legality issues in terms of the police. However this issue is a grey one with lots of confusion so until we can obtain official written proof either way, we must sell these for off road and display systems only.

Like I said before as this subject is so fuzzy you would be extremely unlucky to be pulled for this. As mentioned above I know you can't sell a new car from the factory with xenons without washer jets but we are talking aftermarket now. From memory I think it is something to do with the fact that lamp need to be clean for xenons to operate correctly...I stand corrected though.

UncleFester · Nov 17, 2006

Fitted as OEM the lights need to be self levelling and with washer jets. Aftermarket there is no ruling that states what must be fitted, to pass an MOT all you have to have is the correct lens setting and the lights must work.

There is no way they can pull you over and ticket you because there is no law currently set for aftermarket HID.

DamoR · Nov 17, 2006

Exactly what I implied previously uncle fester so I think we are all ok for now

So what's the best kit and where do we get it?!

UncleFester · Nov 17, 2006

have always used hids4u.co.uk - good customer service and easy to deal with. I guess you're going to pay between 200 and 250 from a 'dealer' or you can take your chances on ebay

DamoR · Nov 17, 2006

Which ones should we buy from above?

Extra Short Bulb HIDS4U Pro - H7 HID Xenon Conversion E4 Certified Ballasts
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=433
or

H7 HID Xenon Conversion E4 Certified Ballasts?
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=332

Also, I will probably buy these sidelights as they look like they will match the LEDs: http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=4

UncleFester · Nov 17, 2006

Don't see a need to buy short bulbs for the Leon ... 6000k temperature gives the best compromise between looks and light output.

That's an HID light on the left and a 'Xenon' look bulb on the right for comparison.

DamoR · Nov 17, 2006

Is there a promotional code for any discounts at www.hids4u.co.uk?

Your photo has sold it to me

I take it we need the H7 kit?

UncleFester · Nov 17, 2006

I don't think he does discoint. but as long as the kit is E approved you should be ok. I can't remember if mine is H7 or not - having a blonde day. If the Leon is H7 then you need an H7 kit though

I'll upload a couple of pics to photpbucket of the fitment and pop it on my thread and pm you the link.

DamoR · Nov 17, 2006

Nice one that would be beneficial thanks for your help. I've just emailed them to see if they offer any discounts...
I think it's a H7 yes.

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