mk4 Golf PD250 - Dirty Dirty Deisel Paint Correction

jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

DIRTY DIRTY DEISEL CORRECTION
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The benefit of writing after you do a detail apart from the simple fact that the event hasn’t happened yet is that you can look back and assess what went right, what went wrong and what needs to change.
I think with anything you do, in time you gain a confidence and you want exposure to new challenges to keep things fresh. That’s all well and good until you hit something that knocks you for six. Try 3 years without a polish with a car that’s used as a daily driver and 186k on the clock! The car is a hybrid turbo diesel with a bad tendency to chuck out those dirty diesel fumes out its rear end.

Rams and I have been planning this detail forever and what turned up was a dirty dirty diesel car and it presented itself like so.

Drawing on past experiences I already knew what products I was going to use. I have also almost relegated the Menzerna Intensive Polish to the bench with P203S being the star player. My logic behind this is that with intensive Polish you just don’t get the finish for the time it takes to properly break down the product. I find it dries up much quicker than the other Menzerna range. I still used Menz IP on the bonnet where it needed that extra cut.

Products
Wash n Drying
Meguairs NXT Tech Shampoo
Meguairs All Purpose Cleaner
Chemical Guys Orange Degreaser
Autosmart Tardis
Bilberry Wheel Cleaner
Valet Pro Snow Foam
Super Plush drying towel
Chemical Guys and Meguairs microfibres

Body Work
Cleanyourcar fine polyclay
Menzerna Power Finish (203S)
Menzerna Intensive Polish (3.02)
Dodo Juice Lime Prime
Meguairs ScratchX
Meguairs Metal Polish

Glazes, Sealants and Waxes
Autoglym HD Wax
Meguairs Last Touch

Plastics, Rubbers and Glass
Chemical Guys New Look Trim Gel
Autoglym Glass Cleaner
WD40

Tools
Meguiars G220 mk2 machine polisher
Karcher Pressure washer
Sonus foam applicators
Menzerna Polish Pad (Orange)
Sonus SwirlBuster Pad
Sonus Green Polishing Pad
Swissvax Detail Brush
Vikan Wheel Brushes
Polished Bliss Wheel and Arch Brush
3M 3434 Masking Tape
500w Halogen

jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

WHEELS
Wheels were soaked in Bilberry Wheel Cleaner. The Arches were also soaked in CG Degreaser and All Purpose Cleaner worked in with the PB Brush.

CLEAN STAGE
Valet Pro snow foam was left to soak for 5-6 minutes and sprayed off. I applied a second coat of snow and proceeded to wash with Megs NXT wash. With amount of dirt on the car to start with I didn’t fancy adding more swirls and scratches to the mixture.

Car looked pretty good soaking wet! I was looking forward to making that a perm look.

Claying was just mental, the car obliterated the clay bar. By the end it was falling to pieces!

At this stage in the detail I was really losing the will to live. I was really worried detailing the car because the paint condition was awful and the task ahead was looking bigger than a day’s work. Spending 1.5 hours just claying the car was totally unexpected and definitely the strangest experience with a clay bar yet. Some panels where smooth to the touch but the clay bar was coming out black? Never seen that before!

jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

CORRECTION STAGE

After trying out a few different combinations P203S and Sonus SiwlrBuster Pad seem to work. I must admit I was not happy with the overall level of correction. The paint just didn’t play ball on different parts of the car. Some panels were soft, some panels were hard and some even sticky. I had to make a decision that I was not going to able to achieve the level of correct I normally achieve with VAG paint cars. I think in these scenario’s its best to know your limitations and my limitations were time and experience. I think if I had the car for longer I would have chosen a complete different approach and most definitely would have wet sanded some parts. In light of my difficulties the results were still a night and day difference.

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jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

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jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

Before – big long scratch mark

After

A painful 4 hours later and here are the results after the first stage. I did hit panels several times and I must admit some panels really tested my patience. However I think the effort made a difference in the end.

jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

RESULTS

Unfortunately with time not on my side I didn’t get time to take pictures of the second pass with Lime Prime. I also didn’t get time to show the cleaning of plastics, rubbers and glass that the mrs helped me with as she realised I was struggling with this one. The car was finished off with two coats of Autoglym HD Wax with the second coat applied an hour apart. In an ideal world if I had the car for longer, it would have been 24 hours apart to allow the wax to cure and bond better.

Anyway here’s the results, I took plenty this time round!

jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

As always thank you to my mate Rams for letting me detail his car. Hope you enjoy it mate! I am guessing Kenny’s golf is going to be a lot worse? I expect a free engine rebuild of something or the keys to his 500bhp Cosworth! lol

Hope you all enjoyed the detail and the write-up!

Detailers Notes
- Know my limits. Sometimes you can’t correct every single scratch and every single bit of RDS.
- Rotary would have helped on this detail.

D.K · Aug 31, 2010

Rams you should hang your head in shame mate that is pure filth :lol:

Very good effort Maz, lovely reflection

R44MS K · Aug 31, 2010

Maz
many thanks again - car looks amazing!
I am very pleased with the results, the body shell has done crazy amount of miles and I knew it was going to be a mission!

Black cars are always a pain especially VAG paint

You will be pleased to hear that the car is going back to the bodyshop for the following:

to fit the OEM r32 sideskirts (currently has ABS replica 25th anniversary skirts)
OEM 25th anniversary smooth rear valance (and matching Miltek discreet backbox)
the bonnet redone (as the bodyshop i used before my current used cheap plastic filler which has reacted and bubbled!)
and rear bumper redone as I am not happy with the smooth recess
the bootlid will be redone too as there is overspray
oh and I picked up a wing too!

im sure the car will be popping around after its had the above done

The car was in such a state that I would have never noticed the imperfections

this car will never be a show car, its a daily driver but boy am i pleased with her!

Maz I promise never to take it to the £5 car wash again!

i will hopefully be dropping off that .:R32 wheel and remind me to program that key for you!

R44MS K · Aug 31, 2010

DK - I love it filthy!! but not no more!

jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

R44MS K said:
Maz
many thanks again - car looks amazing!
I am very pleased with the results, the body shell has done crazy amount of miles and I knew it was going to be a mission!

Black cars are always a pain especially VAG paint

You will be pleased to hear that the car is going back to the bodyshop for the following:

to fit the OEM r32 sideskirts (currently has ABS replica 25th anniversary skirts)
OEM 25th anniversary smooth rear valance (and matching Miltek discreet backbox)
the bonnet redone (as the bodyshop i used before my current used cheap plastic filler which has reacted and bubbled!)
and rear bumper redone as I am not happy with the smooth recess
the bootlid will be redone too as there is overspray
oh and I picked up a wing too!

im sure the car will be popping around after its had the above done

The car was in such a state that I would have never noticed the imperfections

this car will never be a show car, its a daily driver but boy am i pleased with her!

Maz I promise never to take it to the £5 car wash again!

i will hopefully be dropping off that .:R32 wheel and remind me to program that key for you!

Your welcome mate, glad you like it. Yes bring her back to me when you go the other bits done.

I will hunt you down if you do? Did kenny ever tell you about that time with Steve by the way? hahahha so funny

R44MS K · Aug 31, 2010

he hasnt told me that story!! if its to do with those two im sure it wont be safe for public viewing!

i got meguiars gold class shampoo
sheepskin glove
loads of microfibre towels
and some demon shine

will that be ok as a weekly wash?

jonjay · Aug 31, 2010

R44MS K said:
he hasnt told me that story!! if its to do with those two im sure it wont be safe for public viewing!

i got meguiars gold class shampoo
sheepskin glove
loads of microfibre towels
and some demon shine

will that be ok as a weekly wash?

Less demon shine (may strip protection - I am not familiar with the product) and you will be fine.

I recommend getting Megs NXT Quick Detailer instead of the demon shine.

R44MS K · Aug 31, 2010

What would you reccomend as a sealent? would i need to do all that?

wil get the NXT detailer tommorow

D.K · Aug 31, 2010

DoDo juice Red mist

But wait for Maz to confirm

R44MS K · Sep 1, 2010

I am waiting anxiously... lol

jonjay · Sep 1, 2010

I would keep to waxes purely because they are easy to apply. Autoglym HD Wax is my new favourite at the moment. I also recommend Collinite 476s for its durability.

Everytime you wax make sure you give the car a good wipe down with quick detailer before hand. Also only use clean microfibres when drying. If you think its dirty dont use it as you will damage the car.

You can get Red Mist but dont apply red mist directly after you wax as it contains solvents and will strip the wax. Wait 24 hours at least before applying Red Mist.

psycho6285 · Sep 1, 2010

Amazing work!! getting a Das-6 this week, just a bit wary of destroying my car lol. You got any tips JonJay, you seem to have the nack for making cars beautiful again.

jonjay · Sep 1, 2010

psycho6285 said:
Amazing work!! getting a Das-6 this week, just a bit wary of destroying my car lol. You got any tips JonJay, you seem to have the nack for making cars beautiful again.

Have a look on my readers ride thread. On the first page there is index of the details I have done. Have a read through all of them as I have put in tips on how to do various things. I then can answer your specific questions around various processes.

psycho6285 · Sep 1, 2010

Nice one mate, iv just sorted a free bonnet from a mate at a scrappers so gonna have a good practise first.

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