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iTB Ibiza Cupra 16v Track Toy - Engine Rebuild, Aero & More Page 73+

Dave_R

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Not a lot done to take photos of. Had the tracking and camber sorted yesterday.... did lose my centre cap off one of the compo's spent 40mins looking for it with no luck and on my way home thought I will have another look and found it :)

Changed the oil today, fitted a new boonet switch for the alarm, re-soldered a cable for the alarm and fitted a new sticker lol :) Couldn't use the sump plug adpator I had for my oil temp gauge so will be searching for a new adpator later on when I get in.

Will change the fuel filter tomorrow now and then give my filter a good clean so won't be using it saturday :(

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Dave_R

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Right 1st chance I've had to sit down and update this!

On the 14th of May I had my car corner weighted and set up by Center Gravity. Left my house at half 5 for a drive up to Warwickshire to be there for half 8, after a for service stops :)

Got u there on time and had a very warm welcome by Chris and his wife Jayne and a well needed coffee.

Had a good chat with Chris with what handling mods I have done to my car and what I be using it for. Then he got down to business, checked over all my mods, the bushes are okay, shocks fitted and look in good condition, checked the anti roll bars!

Made sure his ramp was all level.

Then did a load of measurements around the car, how the tyres were wearing, the height of the car basically a overall look at the car and how it is sitting/set up at the moment. Then he got out the Bilstein spec sheet and set up the coilovers to Bilstein's spec.

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Once he got it to the Bilstein spec, put my weight out to the drivers seat
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That's what I look like in free weights!

Then he removed the arb's because they will resists how the car sits as well
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Then went about making more measurments of the car's height to get it level with my weight inside it. Once that was done, removed the car off the ramps and fitted all the corner weighing equipment and placed the car back onto the ramps.

(I forgot to take a pic of the corner weight equipment but can be seen on the next for pics)

Then looking at the cross axel measurments (rear passenger to drivers front and visa vicer) to make that 50/50 and then looking at the axel ratio weight (passenger rear to drivers rear and drivers front to passenger front) to make that 50/50. And then the front to rear of 60/40 ratio of the weight.

This is done by adjusting the height up or down to shift the weight around the car. For example if the passenger rear had too much weight and the drivers front had less weight then raising the passenger rear and lowering the drivers front will shift the weight towards the drivers front.

While doing everything on the car Chris talks you through what he is doing and is happy to stop and explain something to you, plus Jayne supplying loads of coffee lol.

Once he is happy with the corner weighting he then fits the eqiupemt to set up the tracking and camber of the car
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The rear passenger camber and toe was stop on but the drivers rear had too much negitive camber and too much negitive toe so he removed the hub and placed 1.2mm shims, checked the measurments, removed again and altered the amount of shims till he was happy. But it wasn't as straight forward as that because one the bolts were siezed and then snapped, which took hours to remove and burnt out every drill bit he had.

But fair play to Chris whereas by the time I would be shouting, swearing and throw tools around he was charm and after a cup of coffee and 2 hours of attempts he removed the bolt.

Once he was happy with the set up he takes the car for a test drive with you in the passenger seat, takes it around his "test route" which he does with every car... 1st stop around a small roundabout, goes to 30mph comes out and says "Thats good because the record is in a ferrari maranello at 34mph" and it was damp when we were on the test drive. Happy days thinking that, onto a dual carrageway.... shows the steering wheel straight and the car goes straight then tells me that the car will go to the left, leaves go and puls to the left.... next duals the car will pull right, leaves go and so it does! The car is following the camber of the road.

Takes it through a bumpy B road and shows how easy the car is to handle then lets me drive...... telling me what corners are ahead the car grips well, so easy to drive and it's mind blowing how much grip it has! Hardly any moment in the steering wheel is needed and sooo easy to corner. Would really recommend this done!
 

crezz

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thats some top work..what sort of money is that set up then?

on another note, did you ever decide weatehr you would send some of those skirts and also, dont suppose you have the lower centre grill or was that damaged first time around?

cheers boss
 

Dave_R

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The following day (15th of May) the day that the car was waiting for, the day that I worked my arse off to get the car into the bodyshop and out in time, that day I missed a year ago when I bumped the car. NURBURGRING!!!!!!

Left at 4 in the afternoon and drove through the night to get to Germany!

Settting off at Scott's
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And the journey
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(1st time I've seen a rolling pic of the car on the motorway)

At our Guest House
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(The pic was taken before heading home but would one I got of the car infront of the house, apart from on my phone but I'm lazy).

The snot in bed
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(I really want a garage of my own!)

Going onto the Ring
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Coming off in one piece
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Dave_R

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Sep 20, 2004
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thats some top work..what sort of money is that set up then?

on another note, did you ever decide weatehr you would send some of those skirts and also, dont suppose you have the lower centre grill or was that damaged first time around?

cheers boss

Oh yea was thinking of the side skirts the other day :whistle: Sort it out this week ;)

Lower grille... they only £22 from Seat :D

And the set up not cheap but well worth it.... £517 but if you think the collies were £800, arb's come to £480, diff £600, it's not that much when you compare it like that (I gotta make myself feel better about spending the cash somehow).

But be honest, if I didn't have the set up or the diff I think I would have driven the snot into a barrier at the ring! Some of the lines and speeds I was going/taking and the car just gripped and gripped and gripped even more!
 

crezz

pedro motorsports
Jun 30, 2007
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haha yeah thats true...im now thinking that mine aint handling as well as id like it too.. cant really afford a bath at the minute let alone anything for the car...whats all the talk of the lcr bushes for wishbones and that? also what would you reccomend getting...polybushes or uprated anti roll bar or are they both pointless without each other?

£22 for me to customize is too much! lol..i need a £2 scrappy one! lol..wich there was scrappies around here full of usefull stuff like mk1 golfs with shiney chrome grilles and bumpers and also an ibiza with any spare oarts i need
 

gazcuprablk

my 300+ death box :)
Mar 31, 2006
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south wales
that trip 2 the ring looks awesome would love 2 take the ibiza there sometime hopefully next year who was it u went out there with was it a car club or jus a few mates?

car looks super m8 but i could not bring myself 2 pay some1 to set up my car although it seems worth it as u said it just grips the road alot more but im jus tight lol big thumbs up 2 u tho
 

Dave_R

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Sep 20, 2004
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Gaz I wasn't liking the idea of spending that much on a set up but happy I did..... think of everything you spend on handling mods trying to make the car handle better but they don't really all come together because the rear you can't adjust the camber or the toe so the rear is always fighting against the front. Also with coilovers which probably 95% of people buy to make the car sit low or how they like it to set but really it's ideally set up by corner weighting! My car doesn't sit level when I'm not in the car and even when I'm in it it's still not spot on but the balance of the weight is spend perfectly around the car. so when it comes to braking and cornering the weight will not shift them rear to front, passenger to drivers side, etc....

This set up brings everything together and it really is mind blowing how much better the car grips!

And the trip to Nurburgring I went with mates from Bridgend and Swansea way but we're all on SW-CC.com

Anyway few lil updates,

Had a new sun strip fitted with a new OSE (Old School Engineering) sticker
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The Nurburgring sticker had to be added to my collection on the rear window!
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And brought some Aero wiper blades before I went to Germany
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andyj

There's no F in Quality..
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Just had a catch up on this thread, having missed out on the last 10 pages or so !

It's amazing how much a 'proper' set-up can improve the handling of a car. As you say, people spend £££ on individual parts, but then don't bother getting them all configured to work 'as-one'.
 

gazcuprablk

my 300+ death box :)
Mar 31, 2006
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south wales
ah i see what u mean m8 im jus tight thats my problem lol but it seems like money well spent 2 ive been tryin 2 set my car up so its equal on the front and all that and 2 get it as low as possible so it apparently handles better but it doesnt mean if u have a low car it'll handle, never really thought of this til now.

is that the only place u can get it corner weighted? or was he the best guy for the job?


do they go to the ring every year then? how much did it cost u 2 go out there inc fuel a few laps and b+b as i would love 2 go there
 
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