Hesitation killing my will to live

ExiledWeegie

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tightening the bolts has obviously helped plug the exhaust leak, but hasnt made any difference to the slight hesitation or the fuel trims. honestly have no idea were to go next with it now.

noticing the short term fuel trims bouncing about quite a bit, I was under the impression they should be at or close to 0% ranging from +-1%, mine go to -4.7% to +3.0% and bounce around a lot between that, even at idle its still jumping around a bit.
 
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mty12345

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noticing the short term fuel trims bouncing about quite a bit, I was under the impression they should be at or close to 0% ranging from +-1%, mine go to -4.7% to +3.0% and bounce around a lot between that, even at idle its still jumping around a bit.
That's exactly how short term trims should be mate, oscillating either side of stoichiometric (Air/fuel 14.7:1) at idle. That how the ECU keeps the idle mixture perfect, by going ever so slightly lean, then ever so slighty rich and repeating. While driving short terms can move anywhere from +10/-10 or even more on ocassions. It's not an issue, just the ECU also doing it's thing to get the mixture right.

Your Long term of -7% after a long drive is perfectly normal, and would class as a healthy car rather than running rich. . Even on a brand new standard engine, you will never see 0% in day to day driving, let alone one with a load of mods like yours. Anywhere from +10/-10 is fine, and it's going to move around depending on if you are crusing on the motorway or driving around town. When it says long term, it's only long term relative to the short terms, it will still move around quite a lot, even over the course of a few mins.

As @nd-photo.nl said, no point in carbon cleaning it as it's not a direct injection engine. If the tuner doesn't know that, then i've got to question how good the map is and how well he knows the 1.8t. If i was you i would take the car to a reputable 1.8t tuner with a dyno and get them to live map it to all the mods you've got. They'll look it over at the same time and will probably spot the issue in no time at all, With all the parts you've replaced, you should have a nice solid reliable motor if it's all set up properly.

 

ExiledWeegie

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mate that deffo sets my mind at ease regarding fuel trims thanks for that, i do alot of short runs in the town so that might be why its the way it is.

i'll tell the guy im not going to bother with the carbon clean, no point me wasting another 50 quid if its not needed. regards the tuning i might need to wait until later in the year now, ive thrown money at this constantly and wont get away with any more right now (by SWMBO). the car runs great for the most part and mpg is great, the power is also what i wanted so ive no complaints there.

if i could get rid of this slight hesitation at part throttle id be happy. i think ill just bite the bullet and order a harness repair kit when i can and do it, the only problem there is the last one i bought and sent back had pins for 10 or 12 wires, it seems my loom has 11 wires so i got confused and sent it back.
 
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