Revo Stage One 2.0 FR TSI

Flowjoe100

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Hello everybody!

Thought I would share my experience of having my car remapped. I drive a 2019 Leon ST 2.0 TSI. From the factory this develops 190 hp & 236 lbs/ft. The car has never felt slow during my short ownership (purchased Jan 2024), in fact it has proved to be quite brisk. I just wanted it to have a bit more performance, enough to keep my petrol headed side interested.

After careful consideration and lots of research, I settled on a stage one remap from Revo. It was a close call, the alternative would have been Racingline's offering, but their remap was a tad down on power vs Revo's, and Revo were doing a good March discount offering at the time.

I didn't fancy going to an 'authorised dealer', so drove to their HQ in Daventry to have it done. The logic being the car would receive the best treatment this way, which certainly seems to have been the case. I booked it in with Barry, who was also on hand to greet and deal with me on the day. The whole job took around two hours, no biggie when their customer area is such a nice place to spend time in, comfy sofa, top gear continually looping on TV, free coffee, plenty of nice kit to have a look at etc...

I didn't have anything else done on the car, I'm still using an OE paper air filter and intake, and didn't get a DSG tune. I wanted to keep my original fuel economy and figured there's always the DSG's 'S' mode if I want to hold lower gears. This has so far proved a good option, it saved me a few hundred quid and my car has retained it's fuel ecomony at precisely what it managed before the remap. It is easily capable of 50+ mpg on a run if you drive carefully. I typically get low or mid 30's for city driving. The 7 speed DQ381 gearbox didn't need anything doing to it, it's good for the power & torque a stage one provides, it's the exact same box you get in GTI's, R's, S3's, VRS's, etc... Though the engine differes slightly from those, this car uses the 3b engine variant. A more economically based design which uses a different combustion cycle for efficency & emissions purposes than those performance models.

Talking of performance models, if VW made a Golf GTI Estate I would have 100% bought one. Having always wanted a GTI of some sort, and now having the luggage capacity demands a child brings, it would have been a no brainer of a purchase for me. VW's lineup being as it is, I didn't want or need the four wheel drive, 300 hp, insurance costs, excessive fuel bills or theft issues associated with the Golf R estate. It's a shame they don't make the GTI estate but in the absence of that this Leon was the next best thing in my eyes. In case anyone is wondering, I did test drive an Octavia VRS 245 estate but I didn't like it.

Anyway, the remap... The car is it's placid old self in normal driving, you would struggle to tell anything had been done to it if you are pootling around. Give it a bit more throttle than that though and you can definately tell it has a lot more torque. Running premium 99 fuel I'm told by Revo that it now develops 321 lbs/ft, an increase of 85 lbs/ft over stock. And you can really feel it, there is a lot more 'lazy power' available, you really don't have to get the engine going much to have it very effectively shove you down the road. Even in 'D' mode with the box constantly trying to run the highest gear it possibly can, it's more driveble more of the time. The high gearing is just less of an issue with the extra power. There is a bit of torque steer which wasn't present before, but it's not an issue at all and is very manageable. My first experience of it actually, having come from BMW's. My old car was a 2003 E46 330i, I loved that thing but it was getting on a bit.

The power is right up there now too, apparently now running at 266 hp, easily making this the most powerful car I've owned. Stick the gearbox into 'S' or manual mode, get the revs up and the car really really flies. Like I mentioned before, it wasn't slow before but it is savagely fast now. The engine makes a much better sound, I swear there's even a nice induction roar with the stock system. It's never going to be the final word in performance, its an FR estate after all, but in this configuration its now the ultimate performance estate sleeper car (de-badged S4 Avant's and the like aside of course). For what is still a fairly light & compact estate car, coming in at 1,384 kg it's new found power is rather a lot I think. Traction is a bit of an issue off the line, and wheel hop can be had, but it was there before and if you manage the throttle it's fine.. Anyway, I'm not really one for haring it off from a standstill, I tend to treat my cars more respectfully & carefully than that. Traction all the rest of the time is very good, and the brand new Kumho's Ecsta 71's it came with are up to the job, though I will swap these for Asymetric 6's or Sportcontact 7's soon. 40-60 or 50-70mph is literally dispatched in a couple of seconds, any in gear acceleration is more than enough for any situation or overtake, and it's all delivered in a very linear and smooth fashion. The engines running doesn't seem to have been compromised in any way, and the car seems just as happy as it was before it had the stage one. FYI... if you're considering getting a remap on the 2.0 190 engine, get it done from a reputable company. My research into this just showed how important this is, a lot of people have suffered issues from cheaping out on the software. I've not come accross any issues from people using reputable tuners like Revo/Racingline/APR etc...

So yeah, I'm happy with the result, and im very pleased with my new (to me) Leon FR ST, it's just a brilliant car in so many ways. With this forum's help I've fixed the usual rattles, soundproofed the door cards, and the rear wheel well. It's a much quieter & nicer place to spend time in as a result, so thanks to you all for that. Any questions relating to this are of course welcome. Thanks for reading this & happy motoring!

Joe

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How much did it set you back and any dsg fart noises?
I run stage 3 now and got that many years ago but you get a discount if you have bought a lowe stage before (or you did).
They show the price on the Revo site, the only warning is they dont show price including VAT as they sell it all over the world so not always relevant.

Yes I get very satisfying DSG Farts
 
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Hi mate, thanks for posting this info as I have been looking into a Revo Stage I also. How is the car going along now, could you give us a review please?

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Flowjoe100

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Mar 13, 2024
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Hello FutureHendrix,

Sorry for the slow reply. Basically the car is still running great. The remap hasn't interfered with anything, everything still works just fine. I have only been using premium fuel since the remap, Shell 99 or Tesco 99 are my preferences, though some BP Ultimate or similar has been used on the odd occasion.

My MPG is still as good as it ever was, easily achieving 50+ on the motorway, even more with 'ECO' mode and a gentle touch.

The Goodyear Asymetric 6's I ended up putting on the front are excellent. Quieter and more comfortable than the Kumho's that were there (these are now on the back). This hasn't caused any handling issues at all and the car feels very planted still. I'll get Goodyear all around at some point, but it seems silly to throw good tyres away that have loads of life left in them.

Any questions let me know!
 
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Hello FutureHendrix,

Sorry for the slow reply. Basically the car is still running great. The remap hasn't interfered with anything, everything still works just fine. I have only been using premium fuel since the remap, Shell 99 or Tesco 99 are my preferences, though some BP Ultimate or similar has been used on the odd occasion.

My MPG is still as good as it ever was, easily achieving 50+ on the motorway, even more with 'ECO' mode and a gentle touch.

The Goodyear Asymetric 6's I ended up putting on the front are excellent. Quieter and more comfortable than the Kumho's that were there (these are now on the back). This hasn't caused any handling issues at all and the car feels very planted still. I'll get Goodyear all around at some point, but it seems silly to throw good tyres away that have loads of life left in them.

Any questions let me know!
Thanks for replying. I ended up going to Daventry and getting it mapped. I haven’t bothered with the DSG like you said. Have you thought about that or will you just leave it? Some people on Facebook have suggested a DSG map is necessary but I’m not sure what to believe.

I was offered a 95 or 99 map but unfortunately at the time the car already had 95 in so I just went with that, not sure if putting 99 in mine will make that much of a difference.

What made you go for the AS6’s over the Michelin Pilot Sport 4/5’s?

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Flowjoe100

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I've still not got the DSG map. I'm quite happy with Sport mode. But then again, this means I have never tried the mapped alternative, so I can't give a comparison.

I ended up with the Goodyear's for a few reasons. They have some rim protection, were cheaper than the Michelin's, and they scored very highly on the 'Tyre Reviews' YouTube test. The sidewalls are a bit boring but I can love with them.
 

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Thanks for replying. I ended up going to Daventry and getting it mapped. I haven’t bothered with the DSG like you said. Have you thought about that or will you just leave it? Some people on Facebook have suggested a DSG map is necessary but I’m not sure what to believe.

I was offered a 95 or 99 map but unfortunately at the time the car already had 95 in so I just went with that, not sure if putting 99 in mine will make that much of a difference.

What made you go for the AS6’s over the Michelin Pilot Sport 4/5’s?

thanks
On 95 what was your peak hp?
 
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Flowjoe100

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I have never used 95. My remap was done for 99, and that's all I've used since. Supposedly 266hp, but I've not had the car on a dyno so it's hard to say for sure. Probably a bit less in reality, 250ish perhaps 🤷🏻
 
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I've still not got the DSG map. I'm quite happy with Sport mode. But then again, this means I have never tried the mapped alternative, so I can't give a comparison.

I ended up with the Goodyear's for a few reasons. They have some rim protection, were cheaper than the Michelin's, and they scored very highly on the 'Tyre Reviews' YouTube test. The sidewalls are a bit boring but I can love with them.
I’ve seen the PS4/5 tyres come highly recommended on the Leon FR Facebook groups but the Goodyears also get mentioned a lot. How’s the traction in wet?
On 95 what was your peak hp?
Haven’t dunno tested but I was told it’s about 10HP less than the 99 map. I’m not a proper enthusiast so I doubt I’d notice the difference. UK fuel is generally regulated pretty well so I didn’t mind going for 95. I’ll still full tank with 99 every few weeks - not sure if this will make a difference or if it’s a just something I’ve convinced myself is better for the car 😂
 

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Thanks for the reply, I've got the same engine and would like to map on 95 too.
10hp if thats accurate is neither here or there.
 
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I’ve seen the PS4/5 tyres come highly recommended on the Leon FR Facebook groups but the Goodyears also get mentioned a lot. How’s the traction in wet?

Haven’t dunno tested but I was told it’s about 10HP less than the 99 map. I’m not a proper enthusiast so I doubt I’d notice the difference. UK fuel is generally regulated pretty well so I didn’t mind going for 95. I’ll still full tank with 99 every few weeks - not sure if this will make a difference or if it’s a just something I’ve convinced myself is better for the car 😂
If it's mapped for 95 then just a waste of money. 95 map will have much less timing.
 
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The ignition timing (and maybe boost) will be set not to exceed certain values as a safety measure for the low octane in 95 fuel. Putting 99 in would just be a waste of money, as the engine will not attempt to increase timing or boost to take advantage of it.
Wouldn't you get the benefit of at least the additives, like when using 99 on a stock map?
 
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I’ve seen the PS4/5 tyres come highly recommended on the Leon FR Facebook groups but the Goodyears also get mentioned a lot. How’s the traction in wet?

Haven’t dunno tested but I was told it’s about 10HP less than the 99 map. I’m not a proper enthusiast so I doubt I’d notice the difference. UK fuel is generally regulated pretty well so I didn’t mind going for 95. I’ll still full tank with 99 every few weeks - not sure if this will make a difference or if it’s a just something I’ve convinced myself is better for the car 😂
Traction in the wet is good once you are rolling. Off the line and harsh low speed acceleration isn't brilliant, and you do get wheel hop and wheel spin. But that would happen with any brand of tyre I think. Once you are in 3rd you can be as aggressive with the throttle as you like and they will grip, even in the wet.
I dont think better tyres exist that would solve these issues. Premium models from Goodyear / Continental / Michelin are all equally good in my opinion.
 
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