Error codes help

[percy96]

Hi folks,

Wondering if someone might be able to advise?

In the past couple of months, I’ve been driving fairly long distances and on two occasions I’ve had warnings pop up telling me that:

1) Front assist is unavailable
2) Lane assist is unavailable
3) Manoeuvre assist is unavailable

This happened for the second time just this morning. About half an hour after, I had a start/stop system failure, which is the second time in the past couple of weeks.

Unusually, a couple of days before, I had a tyre pressure alert pop up, but none of the tyres had lost pressure. I reset the TPMS and away I went.

Turning off the engine and restarting fixes these issues, but can’t help feeling there is something more to it!

Anybody able to point me in the right direction based on the output of my OBDeleven scan below? I think it could be a faulty module, but not sure which one.

TIA

 

[percy96]

Hi folks,

Wondering if someone might be able to advise?

In the past couple of months, I’ve been driving fairly long distances and on two occasions I’ve had warnings pop up telling me that:

1) Front assist is unavailable
2) Lane assist is unavailable
3) Manoeuvre assist is unavailable

This happened for the second time just this morning. About half an hour after, I had a start/stop system failure, which is the second time in the past couple of weeks.

Unusually, a couple of days before, I had a tyre pressure alert pop up, but none of the tyres had lost pressure. I reset the TPMS and away I went.

Turning off the engine and restarting fixes these issues, but can’t help feeling there is something more to it!

Anybody able to point me in the right direction based on the output of my OBDeleven scan below? I think it could be a faulty module, but not sure which one.

TIA

For reference, I’ve got a 2020 Seat Leon TSI EVO SE Dynamic.

 

[KoNG]

Possible Gateway 19 could be your issues as all starting with message missing. Maybe that unit just need SW update or new parametrisation.
Does the erros start always from front assist? Or what is the sequence of messages that could be your stasrting point.

 

[billywitch]

For reference, I’ve got a 2020 Seat Leon TSI EVO SE Dynamic.

Hi was this resolved? I'm getting same and dealer haven't got a clue

 

[percy96]

Hi was this resolved? I'm getting same and dealer haven't got a clue

Hiya, never got a resolution myself. Haven't had so much of any issue with it for some time now (long may it continue).

Are you experiencing the 'unavailable' message, the error codes, or both?

 

[billywitch]

Hiya, never got a resolution myself. Haven't had so much of any issue with it for some time now (long may it continue).

Are you experiencing the 'unavailable' message, the error codes, or both?

Just the error codes. Nothings coming up on the dealership diagnostics and now they are suggesting wiring issues outside of warranty and labour charges for further diagnostics

 

[percy96]

Just the error codes. Nothings coming up on the dealership diagnostics and now they are suggesting wiring issues outside of warranty and labour charges for further diagnostics

If it's just the error codes, and there's no impact to the car's features or functionality, the general consensus is to ignore them. I don't think there's any such thing as a 'error code free' car .

 

[mty12345]

Just the error codes. Nothings coming up on the dealership diagnostics and now they are suggesting wiring issues outside of warranty and labour charges for further diagnostics

The error description is interesting.
B10FCF0 - Front park assist sensors
Function limitation due to environmental influences
Intermittent

Was it by any chance an icy day and the sensors (or one of them) was obscured by ice? Would make sense with that code. Not entirely sure how the system works on the newer models, but have seen a similar issue with other brands where the camera was obsured by dirt or ice. If it happens again try wiping the cameras.

 

[percy96]

Was it by any chance an icy day and the sensors (or one of them) was obscured by ice. Not entirely sure how the system works on the newer models, but have seen a similar issue with other brands where the camera was obsured by dirt or ice. If it happens again try wiping the cameras.

It wasn't an icy day when I had these issues; the conditions were dry and fairly clear. If I remember correctly, if the fault was caused by an environmental condition, the title of the error code does mention this.

Front assist relies on radar technology. I think the newer models also still use radar. I don't believe LIDAR technology has become mainstream for SEAT, or wider VW vehicles, yet (or if it will do). To work properly, the radar unit needs to be 'clean' and free of dirt.
Lane assist relies on a front-facing camera just behind the rear view mirror. Again, I think the newer models rely on this also. This also needs to be free of dirt.
Manoeuvre assist relies on the ultrasonic sensors, and possibly radar and camera systems. I wouldn't have thought this has changed in newer models.

 

[billywitch]

If it's just the error codes, and there's no impact to the car's features or functionality, the general consensus is to ignore them. I don't think there's any such thing as a 'error code free' car

can I quote that to the Cupra dealer should I decide to px it in one day. I'm sure he would understand and give me full market value TBF until I have an attempted collision there's no way of me knowing whether it's just an error message or a fault with the sensors

 

[billywitch]

I'd rather get it sorted while it's under warranty. Plus the constant pinging is bldy annoying

 

[billywitch]

The error description is interesting.
B10FCF0 - Front park assist sensors
Function limitation due to environmental influences
Intermittent

Was it by any chance an icy day and the sensors (or one of them) was obscured by ice? Would make sense with that code. Not entirely sure how the system works on the newer models, but have seen a similar issue with other brands where the camera was obsured by dirt or ice. If it happens again try wiping the cameras.

Nope. On one occasion was sparkly clean coming out of the Cupra dealer following a complimentary valet

 

[percy96]

I'd rather get it sorted while it's under warranty. Plus the constant pinging is bldy annoying

I think there's some confusion - I asked if was impacting the functionality and you said 'just the error codes'? So you are obviously getting some error messages on your dash display? These are not the same as error codes, but are related, and are stored in the ECU.

What actual errors are you getting shown to you?

It's difficult to troubleshoot exactly without a copy of the diagnostics log. Might be worth purchasing an OBD11 (or similar) and sharing the report with us.

 

[percy96]

Nope. On one occasion was sparkly clean coming out of the Cupra dealer following a complimentary valet

I think mty12345 was looking at the diagnostic log I uploaded .

 

[billywitch]

I think there's some confusion - I asked if was impacting the functionality and you said 'just the error codes'? So you are obviously getting some error messages on your dash display? These are not the same as error codes, but are related, and are stored in the ECU.

What actual errors are you getting shown to you?

It's difficult to troubleshoot exactly without a copy of the diagnostics log. Might be worth purchasing an OBD11 (or similar) and sharing the report with us.

Error messages on my display dash include "Error Parking Distance Control" "Manoeuvre Braking Currently Unavailable" "Front Assist Availability is Limited" Cupra have told me nothings coming up with a fault when they run the diagnostics. They have cleaned the sensors. Seems to be on starting up a cold engine and is intermittent.

 

[billywitch]

I think there's some confusion - I asked if was impacting the functionality and you said 'just the error codes'? So you are obviously getting some error messages on your dash display? These are not the same as error codes, but are related, and are stored in the ECU.

What actual errors are you getting shown to you?

It's difficult to troubleshoot exactly without a copy of the diagnostics log. Might be worth purchasing an OBD11 (or similar) and sharing the report with us.

Sorry getting confused with "codes" and "messages" 🫣 I appreciate your help !

 

[percy96]

Error messages on my display dash include "Error Parking Distance Control" "Manoeuvre Braking Currently Unavailable" "Front Assist Availability is Limited" Cupra have told me nothings coming up with a fault when they run the diagnostics. They have cleaned the sensors. Seems to be on starting up a cold engine and is intermittent.

If you’re getting these errors messages on your display, they’re certainly being logged by the car’s ECU as error codes so would show on a diagnostic scan. Are you able to ask them for a copy of the report?

Is there another dealer nearby that you could go to, just for a second opinion? The other alternative is to buy or borrow an OBD11 device and scan, then generate a report from that.

Sorry getting confused with "codes" and "messages" 🫣 I appreciate your help !

No worries. No need to apologise!