Facelift Leon LED reverse light

[Casterina]

Hi,

I have a 2018 Leon FR and would like to swap the reverse light to LED so it's brighter and to match the rest of the car which are LEDs, had a look around the forum and most suggest Autobulbs Direct and AGLINT on Amazon so I'm wondering which one is more reliable and last longer?

 

[Rockbox]

I got one from autobuldsdirect two and a bit years ago still ok and no error messages.
Mine was for a pre face-lift.

 

[Casterina]

I got one from autobuldsdirect two and a bit years ago still ok and no error messages.
Mine was for a pre face-lift.

I believe the facelift uses W16W which are these on Autobulbs Direct website?

955 / 921 Twenty20 Impact Canbus LED 12V W16W Bulb

Twenty20 Impact 955 LED Bulbs - Perfect for sidelights, number plates, foglights, reversing lights and brake lights - these LED bulbs are CANbus compatible and give off a brilliant 6000K crisp white light.

www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk

Looks like the AGLINT has LED all around the bulb whereas Autobulbs Direct has it on either side.

 

[Casterina]

Ordered the Twenty20 W16W LED from Autobulbs Direct but was wondering will the LED bulb pass MOT?

 

[RADIOTWO]

Ordered the Twenty20 W16W LED from Autobulbs Direct but was wondering will the LED bulb pass MOT?

I don't think the even look at the rev lights on a MOT, I don't think its a requirement either

 

[GlekkeMatrak]

Got a P21W LED from Philips. Not too bright, brighter than normal bulb, nice cool white. EDIT: comparison pic attached for good measure.

 

[seatgraham]

I don't think the even look at the rev lights on a MOT, I don't think its a requirement either

Reversing light is checked now:

MOT rule changes: 20 May 2018

The MOT test changed on 20 May 2018, with new defect types, stricter rules for diesel car emissions, and some vehicles over 40 years old becoming exempt.

www.gov.uk

 

[Casterina]

Reversing light is checked now:

MOT rule changes: 20 May 2018

The MOT test changed on 20 May 2018, with new defect types, stricter rules for diesel car emissions, and some vehicles over 40 years old becoming exempt.

www.gov.uk

This is the only check I found about reversing lights (reversing lights on vehicles first used from 1 September 2009) and vehicles will fail the MOT test if their halogen headlamp units have been converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs but that is regarding to headlamp unit and not reverse lights so I believe the LED bulb will pass MOT but want to confirm just in case.

 

[seatgraham]

This is the only check I found about reversing lights (reversing lights on vehicles first used from 1 September 2009) and vehicles will fail the MOT test if their halogen headlamp units have been converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs but that is regarding to headlamp unit and not reverse lights so I believe the LED bulb will pass MOT but want to confirm just in case.

I'm not sure on that to be honest. There was guidance on gov.uk but it's not current and was withdrawn. But the guidance was that if the vehicle had a reversing light, it had to work. Or it was a major defect. Not sure if that has changed now.

 

[RADIOTWO]

This is the only check I found about reversing lights (reversing lights on vehicles first used from 1 September 2009) and vehicles will fail the MOT test if their halogen headlamp units have been converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs but that is regarding to headlamp unit and not reverse lights so I believe the LED bulb will pass MOT but want to confirm just in case.

I thought the HID (led) part of the MOT had been revoked ! I have just had a MOT on my other car and the HID's were mentioned and a Pass

 

[seatgraham]

I thought the HID (led) part of the MOT had been revoked ! I have just had a MOT on my other car and the HID's were mentioned and a Pass

It might have been revoked although the below guidance advises:

"Existing halogen headlamp units on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp for light source and lamp not compatible.

This does not refer to complete replacement headlamp units which may be constructed with HID or LED light sources.

If a complete headlamp unit has been replaced with a unit that was manufactured with HID or LED light sources, it must not be failed for ‘Light source and lamp not compatible’ but it must meet all other requirements detailed in section 4 of this manual specific to the type fitted at the time of test."

Reversing lights: must be working and operate when reverse is selected. But that seems to be about it (oversimplifying the regs but in a nutshell).

MOT inspection manual: cars and passenger vehicles - 4. Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment - Guidance - GOV.UK

Headlamp, position lamps, daytime running lamps, stop lamps, indicators, hazard warning lamps, fog lamps, reversing lamps, lighting ‘tell-tales’, trailer electrical socket, electrical wiring and battery rules and inspection for car and passenger vehicle MOT tests.

www.gov.uk

 

[bigbadjay]

AGLINT W16W LED Bulbs CANBUS Error Free Extremely Bright 3030 10SMD T15 921 912 955 for Car Reverse Light Backup Parking Lights 12V 24V 6500K Xenon White Pack of 2 : Amazon.co.uk: Automotive

Buy AGLINT W16W LED Bulbs CANBUS Error Free Extremely Bright 3030 10SMD T15 921 912 955 for Car Reverse Light Backup Parking Lights 12V 24V 6500K Xenon White Pack of 2 at Amazon UK. Free delivery on eligible orders.

www.amazon.co.uk

These are the ones you want. Ignore the MOT rules

 

[hakanFR]

Hello All,

I have a 2020 Facelift Leon FR. I want to replace my reversing bulb to led. Which of the below bulbs should I buy?

Does the fault light come on after installation? or plug and play? I am waiting your kindly help.

955 / 921 Twenty20 Impact Canbus LED 12V W16W Bulb

Twenty20 Impact 955 LED Bulbs - Perfect for sidelights, number plates, foglights, reversing lights and brake lights - these LED bulbs are CANbus compatible and give off a brilliant 6000K crisp white light.

www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk

955 OSRAM LEDriving SL Range (W16W) LED Upgrade Bulbs (White) - Pair

955 upgrade LED bulbs from OSRAM's LEDriving SL Range offering a stunning 6000k colour output and more light than a standard bulb.

www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk

Thanks and Regards.

 

[Seriously?]

Hello All,

I have a 2020 Facelift Leon FR. I want to replace my reversing bulb to led. Which of the below bulbs should I buy?

Does the fault light come on after installation? or plug and play? I am waiting your kindly help.

955 / 921 Twenty20 Impact Canbus LED 12V W16W Bulb

Twenty20 Impact 955 LED Bulbs - Perfect for sidelights, number plates, foglights, reversing lights and brake lights - these LED bulbs are CANbus compatible and give off a brilliant 6000K crisp white light.

www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk

955 OSRAM LEDriving SL Range (W16W) LED Upgrade Bulbs (White) - Pair

955 upgrade LED bulbs from OSRAM's LEDriving SL Range offering a stunning 6000k colour output and more light than a standard bulb.

www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk

Thanks and Regards.

My only comment would be that the website states the Osram bulb is not CANBus compatible; which suggests it will throw a bulb-out warning (if the reversing light is monitored for bulb failure- I don't know if it is or not)

 

[hakanFR]

@Seriously? Thanks for your comment.

The comments of someone who uses these bulbs are very important to me.

 

[black_sheep]

@hakanFR

I have the previous generation OSRAM W16W LED on MY2019 car. No bulb out warning, so I’m assuming that the reverse light is not monitored.

I do have VCDS, but 99% sure I haven’t coded it out.

Easiest way to tell is to remove the halogen bulb and put into reverse and see if it throws an error.

 

[hakanFR]

Hello Again,

When I searched about the OSRAM 921DWP (OSRAM LEDriving SL Range (W16W) LED), It is written on the back of the box and in the data sheet of the product that it is compatible with canbus.

LEDriving SL W16W WHITE | OSRAM Automotive

www.osram.com

 

[Seriously?]

@Seriously? Thanks for your comment.

The comments of someone who uses these bulbs are very important to me.

We've got the Twenty20 in our ST - it's been in there for 3 years with no problem. Very bright and 100% better than the filament bulb SEAT cheaped out on.

 

[Seriously?]

Hello Again,

When I searched about the OSRAM 921DWP (OSRAM LEDriving SL Range (W16W) LED), It is written on the back of the box and in the data sheet of the product that it is compatible with canbus.

LEDriving SL W16W WHITE | OSRAM Automotive

www.osram.com

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Obviously a mistake on the Autobulbs direct website description. I notice also in one place they state the colour temperature as 6000K and in another place 5000K.

 

[hakanFR]

Obviously a mistake on the Autobulbs direct website description. I notice also in one place they state the colour temperature as 6000K and in another place 5000K.

Yes absolutely right