Waterpump types and timing belt change 184 2017

[E_T_V]

Hi all, Newbie to this forum so be gentle(ish!). I did have a quick search but didn't find exactly what I was after.
My missus 2017 FR 184 is (I think??) due a cambelt shortly on age (it has about 45k on the clock). Is that right? I can't seem to find a straight answer on that!
I'm assuming I'll change the water pump at the same time. But which type should I fit? switchable or non? I assume both are interchangable? Are the electronics going to sulk if I fit a non switching one? I've heard of issues on the switching pumps but I'm new to VAG/Seat/Leon. (more used to my much older British stuff!)
No current issues with the car and I'm torn between sending it back to the dealer or doing it myself. (I'm pretty competent but on much older stuff). Any special tools I'd need to DIY it as I think it'll be a keeper, so I'll look after it likely better than a dealer. The service intervals on some bits seem totally crazy to me - it is still on its original air filter apparently!

Pic of one of my much older British stuff just for fun (mine is the white one).

 

[SuperV8]

Hi, and welcome.
I did my own cam belt, once you get to the cam belt - it is fairly typical Diesel CR cam belt change - but getting to it involved moving lots of parts. Had to make a tool to remove a turbo temp sensor - simply a deep socket (19mm from memory) with a slot cut in it - like an exhaust sensor tool.
VAG like to use spline drive and torx so make sure you have a complete set of both.
You'll also need the locking tool set for the EA288 TDI engine - these are something like £80+ again from memory.
Yes, Seat UK list cam belt change at 5 years on TDI's.

I posted some photos when I did mine - have a look at my previous posts.

Regarding water pump - I just fitted the latest OEM switchable pump, there had been several part number supersessions presuming improvements?
I think the water pump problems were on earlier engines?
The cooling systems on these engines are very complicated, with 3x pumps and 4 circuits, with lots of one way valves. Whenever you change the water pump they recommend doing a full flush and coolant change, this is much more involved than just sticking a garden hose in the top radiator hose.
There are full manuals on here.

 

[Mr Pig]

The big advantage of letting the dealer do it is that they give you a five year warranty on it. Down side of course is that it's not cheap!

 

[mike000]

maestro turbo is one of my old favs. One of my naighbors had 2 stashed in his garage for years. Used to love em when i was a kid.

 

[E_T_V]

The big advantage of letting the dealer do it is that they give you a five year warranty on it. Down side of course is that it's not cheap!

Yes 600 quid I think is the price from a dealer for timing belt and waterpump. It also needs a service too. £££

 

[E_T_V]

Any recommendations for timing pin kits? Seems to be loads on ebay for 30-50 quid.
Any particular brands of timing belt kit and waterpump to look out for too. Just pricing the whole lot up at the moment, to see if it is worth my time to DIY it. I'm thinking as I'll likely have the car 5+ years I might as well learn now than in another 5 years time!

 

[SuperV8]

I'd think all the cheap timing pin kits on ebay are from the same source. Looking back in my emails mine was £45. Worked fine. If you'll be doing 2x timing belts changes that would be £22.50 per change!
I would personally get Genuine VW Audi Skoda Timing Belt Kit 04L198119K with water pump 04L121011N. Both are on ebay in a kit for around £220
When I looked previously I found these for a similar price/cheaper to other big name aftermarket versions.
You'd also need 10L of coolant.

 

[Big Col]

If you ask about the recommended intervals for the belt differ. A VW dealer will tell you different from an Audi dealer. The SEAT handbook quotes 120K miles iirc but no time interval.

I got the belt done on my Golf GTD at 5 years/60K
£400 from a VW indie. That was the belt, pump and aux belt.

 

[Woody_72]

A lot of people say the Continental kits are very good. You get the belt and all the idlers and pulleys etc in a kit.

 

[BillyCool]

I had my pump fail/stick and it caused me very inconsistent overheat issues. I got a non-switchable pump fitted and that came from TPS. It has a dummy plug for the electronics, so no issues there. I've had it in for just over 2 years and no dramas.

I did also have thermostat and housing changed (at the time, unsure of overheat cause, so did pump and stat). Also did the heater matrix myself at same time, as well as new header tank without the silicant bag. Didn't flush the whole system, but my mechanic dropped the main rad hose when doing the pump and stat, so don't think there wasn't much left in it anyway.

So far, so good.

 

[R3k1355]

If you're remotely near Yorkshire head to Darkside, can't go wrong.