Burger Motorsports JB4 Tuning Box

[JasonJM]

Hi all,

I recently got in contact with George at Burger Motorsports to find out whether their current JB4/JB1 box for the EA888 engine was compatible with the Formentors EA888 engine.

His reply:

'It is not compatible but we have nearly completed the unit for it which will be a Group 18 JB4.
I can notify you once it's available on our site. It won't be longer than a month.'

 

[MrBiggles87]

Hi all,

I recently got in contact with George at Burger Motorsports to find out whether their current JB4/JB1 box for the EA888 engine was compatible with the Formentors EA888 engine.

His reply:

'It is not compatible but we have nearly completed the unit for it which will be a Group 18 JB4.
I can notify you once it's available on our site. It won't be longer than a month.'

I was curious about the JB4, so I got in touch with George to discuss detection and data output from the ECU after the device had been installed.

Essentially they attach to the sensors and counter the data back to the ECU of that of a stock car, so it all looks like OEM data in the logs. So essentially, the car would log the same as a stock car and the freeze frame when faults are stored would appear stock.

If this is true and the device runs smoothly for the duration of the lease and is removed in the correct manner, would there actually be any way of detecting this at the end?

 

[Jaco2k]

I was curious about the JB4, so I got in touch with George to discuss detection and data output from the ECU after the device had been installed.

Essentially they attach to the sensors and counter the data back to the ECU of that of a stock car, so it all looks like OEM data in the logs. So essentially, the car would log the same as a stock car and the freeze frame when faults are stored would appear stock.

If this is true and the device runs smoothly for the duration of the lease and is removed in the correct manner, would there actually be any way of detecting this at the end?

Well... I read somewhere that apparently the new turbo also has sensors.
Any form of tuning would push the turbo to operate out of specs - this means that if they wanted, they could pull logs from there and still be able to tell.
So, tuning boxes are likely not invisible anymore, but of course that is something that a tuning box company would perhaps forget to tell

 

[MrBiggles87]

Well... I read somewhere that apparently the new turbo also has sensors.
Any form of tuning would push the turbo to operate out of specs - this means that if they wanted, they could pull logs from there and still be able to tell.
So, tuning boxes are likely not invisible anymore, but of course that is something that a tuning box company would perhaps forget to tell

George specifically mentioned the new turbo speed sensor, which also now sends stock data back to the ECU. This is in addition to the way it normally operates.

If this is the case, I am tempted

 

[Bear]

Any update on the JB4 being available for the Formentor yet?

 

[JasonJM]

Any update on the JB4 being available for the Formentor yet?

Yes mate

Group 18: JB4 for EA888 Gen4 for Mk8 Golf R, Audi S3 8Y, Cupra Leon/Formentor

The JB4 is a true user adjustable plug and play solution. Power Gains: Starting at peak 370bhp and 380ft lb.

burgertuning.com

 

[Wyld Stallyn]

Yes mate

Group 18: JB4 for EA888 Gen4 for Mk8 Golf R, Audi S3 8Y, Cupra Leon/Formentor

The JB4 is a true user adjustable plug and play solution. Power Gains: Starting at peak 370bhp and 380ft lb.

burgertuning.com

Says has maps up to 98RON
What about 99RON?
Would that make a difference?

 

[DEAN0]

Says has maps up to 98RON
What about 99RON?
Would that make a difference?

I think it means the map is for super unleaded - some claim 98 ron - others claim 99 ron

 

[JasonJM]

Says has maps up to 98RON
What about 99RON?
Would that make a difference?

I think the difference would be negligible power wise.