Can you add Speed Camera info to MY19 Nav System?

[Tell]

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AFAIK the part number ending 877 is one of those units that can’t load poi’s.
I’ve attached a screenshot of my unit that can’t load them.

Regarding the MY20 cars, I’m sure in that Spanish thread it was mentioned the issue doesn’t affect MY20 cars.

You can update the maps to the latest version though on these units, very easy to do so that’s one thing.

Don’t think a fix will be forthcoming for this issue as it’s just not a big deal for Seat.

I have wondered however, as the satnav comes loaded with 3 POIs that do work (petrol stations and 2 others I forget), can’t these be edited somehow on the sdcard and one of them replaced with the speed cameras poi ??

Is there a My20 now ?. If they do fix the issue with updated firmware, that's the solution doing a firmware update on a My19 if you can get your hands on it. That Spanish thread will be the key to somebody publishing. Looking at page 22 in August no solution yet.

https://www.clubseatateca.com/threads/cargar-radares-en-los-nuevos-my19-navy-system.8455/page-22

I believe / remember Jose Soria on that thread is the guy that produces Spanish speed camera files for upload from public domain sources so he's the guy that will know whether it works with My20 standard units with WiFi when out. I couldnt get a Google hit on "Cargar Radares seat mY20" so I guess nobody is talking about it in Spanish.

I just think that Seat didn't test the firmware out sufficiently for the My19 unit with wifi on the standard unit / left out some code and the rest is a cover story you read on the Spanish thread of their replies. To sort it out it will be a firmware update and that's if they put that function back in.

 

[Kirky]

Is there a My20 now ?. If they do fix the issue with updated firmware, that's the solution doing a firmware update on a My19 if you can get your hands on it. That Spanish thread will be the key to somebody publishing. Looking at page 22 in August no solution yet.

https://www.clubseatateca.com/threads/cargar-radares-en-los-nuevos-my19-navy-system.8455/page-22

I believe / remember Jose Soria on that thread is the guy that produces Spanish speed camera files for upload from public domain sources so he's the guy that will know whether it works with My20 standard units with WiFi when out. I couldnt get a Google hit on "Cargar Radares seat mY20" so I guess nobody is talking about it in Spanish.

I just think that Seat didn't test the firmware out sufficiently for the My19 unit with wifi on the standard unit / left out some code and the rest is a cover story you read on the Spanish thread of their replies. To sort it out it will be a firmware update and that's if they put that function back in.

Thanks for the update. I don't think any MY20 cars have hit the streets yet but hopefully they will be fixed. Like you said if this is the case and they are the same hardware then we can just update the MY19 firmware to the MY20 firmware.
I've updated my maps using the overall.nds file swap trick you have in your thread so at least I have the latest maps. I'll just find a workaround for speed cameras in the meantime.

 

[Slickric21]

There was specific reference in that thread to the issue being fixed in MY20 units, but I was using Google translate.

 

[Kirky]

There was specific reference in that thread to the issue being fixed in MY20 units, but I was using Google translate.

I saw that post but it referred to having a new screen hence the MY19 never receiving an update. I don't think then Leon MY20 has a new screen though does it? The Ateca must have had a screen upgrade for the MY20.

 

[Tell]

It's going to be on that firmware reference which is the key in my notes.

Note MY19 Seat Cars - Standard Navi - POI import not working

It's now become well documented via the Spanish Club Seat Ateca site that the standard navi unit MY19 with the build device part number finishing in 877 and 877A will not import user POIs whether generated by Poinspector, commercial or free Pois. The issues goes across to Leon units and nodoubt the Tarraco. The Mib2 High plus units are fine which we already knew. The issue is not related to the software serial number of the units (0512 / 0514) but part number finishing in 877 and 877A.

The part number can be obtained by

● Press the Infotainment MENU button and
then select Setup .

● In the System settings menu, press the
System information function button.

The top line shows the device part number. If that finishes with 877 or 877A then the unit will not import users Poi's. Seat have acknowledged the issue.

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I note a Spanish thread bragging a Tarraco update, I guess it will be like the Ateca if it works.

https://www.clubseattarraco.com/thr...en-vuestro-seat-tarraco-facilmente.267/page-4

Without knowing the firmware code you can't say for sure what's going on. What we know for the My19 the Plus is ok, the standard without Wi-Fi is ok, and the firmware on the standard unit with wifi and those codes won't work since Seat messed it up.

 

[CupraRST]

Hi to everyone!
I've found this on the internet:
http://www.speedcamupdates.com/seat-leon-navi-system-plus
and:
https://www.scdb.info/en/installation-vw/
(My system looks like the Navi Plus 2017 picture on this page)

They both seem to work in about the same way and with a simple procedure.

But: Do they actually work?
Anyone around here that has experience with one (or both) of these?

For the record: My Seat Leon Cupra R ST is equiped with the Navi Plus (2019).
Map updates went okay untill 0189. (0192 didn't work)

 

[Tell]

Or you can roll your sleeves up on Poinspector that takes the raw files and creates the Vag import.

GPS and satnav - Uploading Speed Camera (Safety Camera) & User POIs

Getting Going Overview The infotainment unit's map system comes with a set of assorted in built Points of Information (POIs) Fuel stations, cafes etc you can also add your own POIs to the internal system which is normal for navigation systems...

www.seatcupra.net

Poinspector substitutes for the withdrawn VW and the Skoda one that doesn't work.

SCDB is popular in Germany so I understand. Not sure about the other one. They will be commercial ones... well SCDB is.

UK people use knock off ones but the danger of that is you dont know the source of the data and how timely it is. The GPS World ones which are "raw" so need to be put through a formatting process are subscription based on user observations crowd sourced.

Basically mib1 and mib2 use db3 SQLite format with metacheck sums in. Some hobbyists have scripts. I think the best finished product is Poinspector with a modest one off cost. A little hassle to set up the proforma, once done it's done. I use it to import destinations as well. You go Poi, tap it in the car, save as destination. That way I keep two cars with the same destination database . Car parks for hikes etc. Hotels, stop offs on common holiday routes etc. Bonus use.

If you have TSR (trafic sign recognition) it's perhaps an overkill to have the cameras as well. I have both. You get a beep if speeding above the digitised road speed or that dynamically read off a speed sign. Mib2 with lane assist can be enabled to do this if not factory fitted. Details on the Ateca forum.

The part number issue related to Seat MY19 & MY20 Mib standard units with wifi should now have been fixed atleast in SCDB where it had a new part number to anything before. That had to be declared on the import file to the unit so the hobbyists and commercial companies were stumped. VW had stopped their website for importing so no output to check. Basically the part number is in the firmware so once the firmware was liberated from the unit the hobbyists could then amend their scripts. I asked to see the firmware that someone had and it confirmed my theory. The same part number steered the firmware import as the POI import. So that's where they got it from - the part number broke cover on a board then got deleted again. Passed that onto Radas the Poinspector programmer. Got put into the Spanish POI files etc.

Ps I recall you can get a free demo of SCDB so you can test it out.

 

[CupraRST]

Or you can roll your sleeves up on Poinspector that takes the raw files and creates the Vag import.

GPS and satnav - Uploading Speed Camera (Safety Camera) & User POIs

Getting Going Overview The infotainment unit's map system comes with a set of assorted in built Points of Information (POIs) Fuel stations, cafes etc you can also add your own POIs to the internal system which is normal for navigation systems...

www.seatcupra.net

Poinspector substitutes for the withdrawn VW and the Skoda one that doesn't work.

SCDB is popular in Germany so I understand. Not sure about the other one. They will be commercial ones... well SCDB is.

UK people use knock off ones but the danger of that is you dont know the source of the data and how timely it is. The GPS World ones which are "raw" so need to be put through a formatting process are subscription based on user observations crowd sourced.

Basically mib1 and mib2 use db3 SQLite format with metacheck sums in. Some hobbyists have scripts. I think the best finished product is Poinspector with a modest one off cost. A little hassle to set up the proforma, once done it's done. I use it to import destinations as well. You go Poi, tap it in the car, save as destination. That way I keep two cars with the same destination database . Car parks for hikes etc. Hotels, stop offs on common holiday routes etc. Bonus use.

If you have TSR (trafic sign recognition) it's perhaps an overkill to have the cameras as well. I have both. You get a beep if speeding above the digitised road speed or that dynamically read off a speed sign. Mib2 with lane assist can be enabled to do this if not factory fitted. Details on the Ateca forum.

The part number issue related to Seat MY19 & MY20 Mib standard units with wifi should now have been fixed atleast in SCDB where it had a new part number to anything before. That had to be declared on the import file to the unit so the hobbyists and commercial companies were stumped. VW had stopped their website for importing so no output to check. Basically the part number is in the firmware so once the firmware was liberated from the unit the hobbyists could then amend their scripts. I asked to see the firmware that someone had and it confirmed my theory. The same part number steered the firmware import as the POI import. So that's where they got it from - the part number broke cover on a board then got deleted again. Passed that onto Radas the Poinspector programmer. Got put into the Spanish POI files etc.

Ps I recall you can get a free demo of SCDB so you can test it out.

Hi @Tell,

I've been reading all posts in the thread https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/uploading-speed-camera-safety-camera-user-pois.12/
Very informative. But also with a big role for Poinspector, a valuable program, but too confusing for me. With too big a risk for making mistakes.

I've seen the option to run a free (but very limited) version of SCDB. (https://www.scdb.info/en/installation-vw/)
I think I will try that first, just to see if the download, unzip and install procedures all work. Plus the warnings in Navi Plus, in symbols and sound.
They seem to update the database very frequent. The costs are also friendly, with €9,95 a year, with unlimited updates.

Will see how that works out.

 

[Tell]

Hi @Tell,

I've been reading all posts in the thread https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/uploading-speed-camera-safety-camera-user-pois.12/
Very informative. But also with a big role for Poinspector, a valuable program, but too confusing for me. With too big a risk for making mistakes.

I've seen the option to run a free (but very limited) version of SCDB. (https://www.scdb.info/en/installation-vw/)
I think I will try that first, just to see if the download, unzip and install procedures all work. Plus the warnings in Navi Plus, in symbols and sound.
They seem to update the database very frequent. The costs are also friendly, with €9,95 a year, with unlimited updates.

Will see how that works out.

That one is popular on the continent. Poinspector wins on being flexible, will import any POIs not just speed cameras. For example people who are interested in UK National Trust (country houses, parks, preserved areas etc) can upload all national trust sites and have them on the map. The car's system (MIB2) can show up to nine POI sets at any one time. You can have more loaded, then pick them off as required. As I said you can devote one set to your own destinations, click on a POI, save as a destination and the cars system then looks like a traditional GPS set up. Thus saved destinations appear on the map. Often hotel entrances aren't where mapping systems put them. Entering X,Y coordinates is more accurate - a lot are done by postcode in the UK which aren't that accurate.

 

[CupraRST]

I've tried out the free SCDB test file (with limited functionality) yesterday. Download and installation worked out fine. The icons showed up in the map of the media screen, the audio warnings through the system. Only needed to turn up the volume of the warnings a bit. So now it's time to make an account and subscribe for the one year license for the complete version. I'm confident this will work out the same. I'll report back.

 

[Tell]

The commercial solution. The shareware / crowd sourcing Poinspector approach is the one I covered which does enable you to import standard GPS poi files as well as speed camera databases. All the stuff you do if you had a standard GPS navigation system. Co-pilot, Garmin etc. Import poi ov2 files etc.

If you are into GPS can also import your own destinations by presenting them as x,y coordinates an added bonus so the mib2 navigation screen then starts to look like a standard GPS system with favourites marked up. Build up your holiday trip in advance. An old mib2 Skoda trick I was told about, import as poi, tap on it and save as a destination. I've got 200 destinations saved that way. Remember car parks for hikes etc, stopping off points travelling across Europe can be easily re-found. I migrated over 10 years of these from Co-pilot into mib2 by this method.

The My19 / My20 issue was that missing part number of the new mib2 standard wifi unit at the time which effected everyone who generated VAG poi uploads... until they found the Id for the unit. That issue should now be history as developers fixed their software. Some of the musing in the thread. Short term issue till the solution was found.

 

[CupraRST]

After trying out the free (but limited) SCDB test file I've now bought myself the full file plus one year monthly updates for only €9,95 a year. Downloading, unzipping, copying the needed files to a SD card and installation, it all went well. I now have all the icons on the map (in both the main screen plus the zoomed in map in the digital cockpit), plus audio warnings. So, I'm happy with this!

@Tell I'm sure Poinspecter has more options in creating other POI, but this SCDB route works straight out of the box. Without being complicated, without making me worried about making mistakes and messing things up.