New Ibiza FR

Fr2013

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I used to have a 2013 FR with the 1.2 110HP. First gear, foot to the floor, what a hoot!

Not as much fun in my 1.0TSI DSG, and quite a lot noisier :roflmao:
 

Mr Pig

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Ah. My son has one and I think it's ok. I'm amazed by what they can get out of a 1L three-cylinder engine.
 

camelspyyder

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Rainsport 3 renowned for short life mate. F1 Asy3 reviews well.

The 1.0 is only really noisy near 6000, but the 1.2/105 was the most refined 4 I ever had. The later 110 belt drive is nearly as good.
 

tak-fr

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ooh, ..from experience, and pictures, 215/40 R17 tyres mostly came with either Dunlop SP Sportmaxx or Bridgestone Potenza RE050A from factory. As the the others say, in 215/40 R17 guise, not that many choices....unlike the more common 205/55 or 225/45. Mine came with Bridgestones, they are ok, if a bit noisy, grip wise and wet grip not bad.. but perhaps thats the 40 profile. After 10k, still have about 6mm of rubber left on the fronts. If you are ok for a mid-range tyre that usually punches above it's weight, consider Fulda Sport Control 2. Yes FR are suppose to be 15mm lower both all Seats I guess. From the pic of mine, I guess it looks low (and sporty enough)...other day a BMW M4 car wanted to race me, coz apparently my car 'looked' the part, until I told the person, I had a 1.0TSI, and then we had a laugh...he did complimented on how it looked though with the black rims. Maybe he thought I had a Cupra. Oh by the way, the rims are quite prone to scuffing, in my case, a coat of black nail polish does the job.
Your car sits nice have you lowered it? Don't think mine is that low.

Have you considered Kumho Ecsta Le Sport havent had any problems with them even though they aren't premium brand tyre you may be looking for.

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Mr Pig

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Picked up the car today. I like it! Have to say that I disagree with the criticism of the handling, I think the car drives well. Compliant around town but stiffens up at speed and gives reasonable feedback on what's happening under you. True, there is not as much info from the tyres as I would like but there is some and it's better than I was expecting.

Still trying to get a handle on the bizarre power curve! Sometimes it feels like letting it rev works, other times it feels like nothing is happening and the highest torque seems to show up fairly low down. Wish the engine didn't sound quite so small too ;0)

But it's a great balance. Comfy around town, docile on the motorway but perks up and is happy to play if you let it loose on the back roads. Really happy with it.

Already bought two spare alloy wheels and ordered up a jack-kit etc. The wang-chung tyres seem usable in the dry, not driven in the wet yet. They're a bit more drifty in the bends than I would like but it's predictable to be fair, I don't know how much is due to the tyres and how much is the car.
 

camelspyyder

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The older 8V 1.2 has good torque from low revs but the power curve falls off a cliff at 6000. Even remapped cars wont rev higher. That engine also seems boost limited in 1st gear (clutch protection?) so it doesn't seem to get going until in 2nd. When I took the 16V 1.2 for a 100 mile test drive, it seemed very similar, apart from a drone at low revs that I didn't like much.
I agree the engine doesn't always feel like it responds in the same way - it's very different when driven gently or thrashed a bit. Speeding up the gear changes and not letting the boost drop off is more satisfying.
 

Mr Pig

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Who says it handles poorly? I love the way the Mk5 drives

Not poorly but not as sharp as a Fiesta for instance.

The other thing I'm struggling with is the seating position. Typical small car bug-bear, pedals too close and wheel too far away. My right leg is floating in the air with no support at all and moving the seat back puts the wheel too far away. It's anointing that they put such limited adjustments on the seat, especially on small cars which often have compromised pedal positions to begin with. You don't even have proper height adjustment, it's only the back that drops, and there is no height adjustment for the front of the seat at all.
 

Mr Pig

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Just for the record, I measured the height of my son's 2017 Ecomotive and my 2016 FR both front and rear and they are exactly the same. The FR is not lowered. Also, the 17'' FR wheels are slightly larger overall in diameter than the 15'' Ecomotive ones so if anything, the FR will sit fractionally higher! ;0)
 

KXL

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Your car sits nice have you lowered it? Don't think mine is that low.

Have you considered Kumho Ecsta Le Sport havent had any problems with them even though they aren't premium brand tyre you may be looking for.

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No no, my car (the Alor Blue one) was not lowered, this is how it is...but it did have a full tank of fuel though :). I was under the impression that both the FRs and Ecomotive (at least on the Leon, Ibizas I dont know) had lowered suspension anyway.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/2014-seat-leon-st-ecomotive-first-drive/

At least this is the case for the Leon Ecomotive.
 

KXL

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I just had a look in the brochure, the Leon says it's FRs are lowered 15mm. On the Ibiza brochure, it just states 'sports suspension' for FRs. So yea, all this time I thought my car was lowered (it looks like though), and nobody told me otherwise.
 

camelspyyder

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Previous eco VW s have had lowered suspension for aero reasons to enhance mpg, as opposed to enhanced handling like the FR. Maybe both models are low (compared to the standard or SE spec).
 
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