Well the highway code says

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You MUST NOT

use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders
use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users (see Rule 226).

In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again.
Law RVLR reg 27

But as I say I doubt many know about it or observe it.
 
To be fair Ibiza LED brake lights aren't that bright, have you seen some Prius, and Merc brake (and front LED headlights), they dazzle me even when I'm a pedestrian!

Perhaps that rule is for manual cars :D
 
It is an odd rule. When I was learning to drive, the instructor, would always suggest to use the handbrake as not to dazzle the car behind. Til I see 95% of drivers, just using the brakes. Even I've used the brakes, especially where I'm waiting under 20 seconds for a light change. I use my handbrake, If I'm stuck in heavy traffic for over a minute.
 
I'm pretty sure when I took the driving test if I you didn't put the handbrake on at traffic lights it was an immediate fail. Not sure now - but the highway code hasn't changed.
 
I'm pretty sure when I took the driving test if I you didn't put the handbrake on at traffic lights it was an immediate fail. Not sure now - but the highway code hasn't changed.

I'm a driving examiner, and based on the training and doing the job now, we wouldn't mark any faults for doing that. But generally most of the learners put it in neutral anyway!
 
I'm a driving examiner, and based on the training and doing the job now, we wouldn't mark any faults for doing that. But generally most of the learners put it in neutral anyway!

Interesting - do learners in autos put the handbrake on or put it in park? I surmise from posts elsewhere that it's not the norm - and might be regarded as a bit fuddy duddy (like NOT crossing your hands).
 
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Anyone know if on the DSG, if you put it into P at the lights, then to D (quickly of course), does the reverse light come on shortly (like 1/2 sec) or only if you put R and leave it there and once gears are engaged?

Can see it causing panic if it does come on (eg..arrghh..why is the car in front engaging reverse?).

I remember once I was renting a VW car (I think it was manual Golf) and the R gear is just front left of 1st gear on right hand drive car, so I need to push with my left hand away from me. Sometimes I push away with a little downward force, trigerring R instead, usually when I do that, I get a honk from behind...so I know...oops it's in R and not 1.

Oh on DSG, the SS does kick in even on neutral, and sometime I forget its there especially on a LOONG wait, so when engine restarts, wonder why the car isn't moving! and I can't just flick the gear to D (need to put foot on brake first) Worst still, on N hill hold doesn't work, so I roll back as well if on hill :rofl:
 
Interesting - do learners in autos put the handbrake on or put it in park? I surmise from posts elsewhere that it's not the norm - and might be regarded as a bit fuddy duddy (like NOT crossing your hands).

There arent too many doing the tests in autos (where im based at least) but most will still put it in Park or Neutral, when i get them to pull up i will always wait for them to put it to P or N. I think its a bad habit that creeps in once your driving on your own! Crossing hands is generally fine too, as long as you keep in 'control' of the vehicle. But generally they are taught not to do that, so in the test at least they very rarely do it!
 
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! Crossing hands is generally fine too, as long as you keep in 'control' of the vehicle. But generally they are taught not to do that, so in the test at least they very rarely do it!

I think police drivers will be appalled, religion is clearly on the decline! That said, my son (a race instructor) finds police drivers amongst his worst pupils - the way they are taught is hopeless on track, and they don't take instruction well (he would say women are generally the best pupils!).

Personally I was taught to "shuffle" and think it works well for the road (not on track - except for autotests, where anything goes to get the lock on fast enough). Unfortunately flappy paddles attached to the wheel - rather than the column - cause me to be increasingly sinful.
 
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