MK3 Leon Cupra, what we know

[robdf2]

Fair point, i may invest in an FR 1.8 or just suck it up and get the cupra 280 at the end of this year

You know there are other brands out there ?

By the time you are ready to buy your next car a used S3 or Golf R will be in budget

 

[jc_boc]

You know there are other brands out there ?

By the time you are ready to buy your next car a used S3 or Golf R will be in budget

true but the audi and golf just don't do anything for me. THAT SAID....... DTD have the CUPRA 280 listed, specced one up and got 3.5K off!!!!

 

[robdf2]

true but the audi and golf just don't do anything for me. THAT SAID....... DTD have the CUPRA 280 listed, specced one up and got 3.5K off!!!!

The price list is wrong
Look at the price of the leather and compare it to the price list on here

Also you have to add back on £1100 if you don't take out the pcp deal

0 % finance is available over 36 months but you have to pay 50% deposit !!!!!!

Oh yeah like most new potential buyers are going to have £19 k just hanging around

 

[jc_boc]

I would opt for the pcp deal in the vain hope that the cupra r gets released close to the end of the contract which means a deposit of between 0 and 30% I believe many folk also use their quotes as a negotiating tool with dealers for healthy discounts. This would be a viable option for me in all fairness and i am not including leather seats as i am not too bothered about that, the alcantara seats are just as good imho.

 

[Al]

true but the audi and golf just don't do anything for me. THAT SAID....... DTD have the CUPRA 280 listed, specced one up and got 3.5K off!!!!

Thought you had the budget for the Merc and wanted it quite badly? Surely the S3 and Golf R are a compromise between the Leon Cupra and the Merc A45 with regard to price, ability (4x4) and being closer on the power stakes?

 

[jc_boc]

Thought you had the budget for the Merc and wanted it quite badly? Surely the S3 and Golf R are a compromise between the Leon Cupra and the Merc A45 with regard to price, ability (4x4) and being closer on the power stakes?

The A45 worked out too costly with the silly deals MERC were putting together for me so i have regrettably binned that idea

 

[Stegor]

Why would I need to ask my bike insurer

You transfer your NCD from the bike to the car and so don't lose it?

 

[jc_boc]

You transfer your NCD from the bike to the car and so don't lose it?

Can't do that. Bike insurance and car insurance are two completely different things so not transferable. Bike I only have 1 year NCB and car I have 3 years NCB. Once you have no car insurance the NCD is only valid for 2 years from date of cancellation and then it expires.

 

[GrahamFR]

Can't do that. Bike insurance and car insurance are two completely different things so not transferable. Bike I only have 1 year NCB and car I have 3 years NCB. Once you have no car insurance the NCD is only valid for 2 years from date of cancellation and then it expires.

I got a 3 year gap (company insured for a bit) but I may or may not have had to go back to the same insurer who was direct line incidentally

 

[Syphon]

My two-penneth.

- SEAT have a delivered a technically excellent car here.
- They have included a hell of a lot of kit as standard - as they did with the MK2 - much more than the competitors do - start ticking the options for basics on the golf etc and watch the price shoot up
- They are likely to have produced the fastest front wheel drive car round the ring (for the track enthusiasts)
- There is a choice on power for people that want it (although are unlikely to)
- Choice of three or five door (with ST expected at a later stage)
- Full LED lighting
- It builds on the already great looking style of the Leon (as M0rk says, the poverty spec already looks good)
- It is tasteful and not too in your face (SEAT have confirmed they want to drop their boy racer image and sell more cars like SKODA) - Yes if I was still 20ish I'd probably want more bling, but I wouldn't be their target market for a +25K car.
- We need to stop worrying about the R at this stage. As Z says the Cupra has only just been shown - the R will be a while away yet. SEAT have already been testing a monster version of this car - the press have wind of it and now everyone is set on that thinking the Cupra isn't good enough and the R is coming this year.
- I agree the colour choice at launch is uninspiring and I don't see why SEAT didn't push out a yellow or even blue, but they may come in time.

So we have a 280HP car, with trick mechanics, high quality interior, stylish but not too in your face good looks, 19" wheels, big red brakes, DSG option, lots of kit as standard including Sat Nav and a great audio system, competitively priced with some good discounts already showing through the brokers. Oh and surprising economy and tax brackets.

Yes I'm a brand nut and you could accuse me of thinking SEAT can do no wrong, but looking at the facts, this is a lot of car for the money and I'm happy to be spending my hard earned cash on one. It's the car I've been waiting for them to produce for a long time. If we all bought the same things life would be boring though.

Scott

 

[AndrewJB]

I agree when you look at the details it's good, can't wait to get one mapped up haha

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[big eck]

The cars looks are the problem for most tho. The main reason I personally go for the top spec models is the looks. As most have said the FR model is even better looking than the cupra which IMO should be the other way round.

Just my take on it. Each to there own I guess.

 

[jc_boc]

I agree with Scott 100% you do get a lot for your money, no matter which way you look at it. As said, start speccing up a golf / golf r and you will see how quickly the cost of it climbs.

 

[Al]

My two-penneth.

- SEAT have a delivered a technically excellent car here.
- They have included a hell of a lot of kit as standard - as they did with the MK2 - much more than the competitors do - start ticking the options for basics on the golf etc and watch the price shoot up
- They are likely to have produced the fastest front wheel drive car round the ring (for the track enthusiasts)
- There is a choice on power for people that want it (although are unlikely to)
- Choice of three or five door (with ST expected at a later stage)
- Full LED lighting
- It builds on the already great looking style of the Leon (as M0rk says, the poverty spec already looks good)

Agreed

- It is tasteful and not too in your face (SEAT have confirmed they want to drop their boy racer image and sell more cars like SKODA) - Yes if I was still 20ish I'd probably want more bling, but I wouldn't be their target market for a +25K car.

The car is definitely not offensive. They do have a touring car version already and looks the part and shows the brands continuation of its sport heritage. Not sure if someone in their 30's+ with the money to buy a Cup Racing road going version of the car would want something that doesn't even hint at what it is capable of. Subtle and stealth is one thing although maybe in the way the RS3 is subtle and stealth. A Cupra with accentuated FR bumpers with no fogs would have been possible, easy to pull off and still not be boy racerish or in your face. Not sure all the people who bought an RS3 for over £40k could be accused of being a boy racer

- We need to stop worrying about the R at this stage. As Z says the Cupra has only just been shown - the R will be a while away yet. SEAT have already been testing a monster version of this car - the press have wind of it and now everyone is set on that thinking the Cupra isn't good enough and the R is coming this year.

Agreed to a point. However now that rumour is out there the fact simply is that people won't want to spend £28k on a 280bhp car with front drive if in the near future, for just a little bit more money, they can have 4x4 and 20bhp more. You mentioned this yourself several pages back. It would be different if they said something like "in 2016 we will consider releasing the Cupra R - this will be 4x4 and 300bhp". Of course they wouldn't show their hand that early for the reasons highlighted by Z above but die hard brand fans like yourself would be happy perhaps to buy the Cupra in 2014 with view to changing in 2016 rather than taking a massive depreciation hit on a new Cupra in March and potentially changing less than a year later for the Cupra R which is perhaps what you'd prefer in the first place.

Perhaps SEAT either said or did the wrong thing to the wrong person here. Rumours will always be rife especially with everything being a secret and guarded so closely. Rather than keeping people guessing, getting them involved would be a much better solution. This is one area where SEAT are still very poor.

- I agree the colour choice at launch is uninspiring and I don't see why SEAT didn't push out a yellow or even blue, but they may come in time.

Agreed again. The Golf R is available in its trademark blue. Why isn't the Cupra available in the trademark yellow at least?!

So we have a 280HP car, with trick mechanics, high quality interior, stylish but not too in your face good looks, 19" wheels, big red brakes, DSG option, lots of kit as standard including Sat Nav and a great audio system, competitively priced with some good discounts already showing through the brokers. Oh and surprising economy and tax brackets.

Agreed.

Yes I'm a brand nut and you could accuse me of thinking SEAT can do no wrong, but looking at the facts, this is a lot of car for the money and I'm happy to be spending my hard earned cash on one. It's the car I've been waiting for them to produce for a long time. If we all bought the same things life would be boring though.

Scott

The cars looks are the problem for most tho.

Also agreed. And the price.

When you look at what else is or will be available with similar power and approximate price

(and the others)

You would surely be forgiven for not believing the Leon Cupra competes with them.

Risky strategy. We will see if it works in time though

 

[ZBOYD]

There is a 3 door Leon Al, every example above is a 3 door, except the Leon.

Leon and Golf appeal to me the most, the others are far to Ripspeed for my tastes. VXR looks dated already.

 

[GrahamFR]

There is a 3 door Leon Al, every example above is a 3 door, except the Leon.

Leon and Golf appeal to me the most, the others are far to Ripspeed for my tastes. VXR looks dated already.

The golf is the clear winner but that is a photoshop jobby, the gap between the wheel and the arch is the usual depressing canyon of a gap.

Plus we need to remeber that they are shots in the flesh which will always look better, im sure the cupra and especially those alloys will look better in the real life

 

[MjrSharpe]

I think that the new cupra is little too understated. I don't know why they dropped the fogs, even if vw and Audi do something similar. With regards to the rear, I think that adapting the fr rear was a bit lazy too. Having said this, as said I think that it will probably have a better presence in the flesh and it would be easy to add a few subtle mods.
When I first got a mk7 fiesta in 2009 autoexpress was continually heralding the st coming, and it didn't come out until this year, after yhe facelift, so something similar could happen with the cupra r. Having said this, I understand why it could be potentially off putting for people, as an r version could come in the near future and it might be better to wait for it.

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[AndrewJB]

Forget the R for now

MK1 LCR was a roll out model
MK2 LCR was a roll out model

 

[AndrewJB]

Forget the R for now

MK1 LCR was a roll out model
MK2 LCR was a roll out model

 

[robdf2]

While I agree with some of what Scott has said , I think Seat will be playing catch up again soon the new face lifted ST is due soon , the RS is also due soon.

seat have a platform which may well be good , all depends what a first drive feels like , but they will have to do something with regards to looks and colours and very quick to stay competitive , no doubting the standard equipment , but for one I would have rather had the choice between LED headlights and Xenon headlights

My one concern is not many of the major manufacturers are going LED , so wonder if Seat are using the Leon as a tester for the vag range.

Also I wonder how special the cabin will actually feel ?

Andrew you may say forget the R for now , but a lot of Cupra potential owners will be pissed off if they are told there is no Cupra R and then one suddenly spring up.
Spin think asking the question is the right thing to so for people to have all the information when making their choice where and what to spend there hard earned money on.