Leon flip Key guide

[Brettyboy]

1) No,need to get a flip key blade

2) Not sure

3) Shouldnt matter

 

[JamesL]

well that was my point in my previous post! i thought that you do not actually program the transponder at all. is it not merely that you tell the car to accept that specific transponder?

Hmm, good question that. You definitely need to have a new transponder, you cannot reuse them. However, as you say, the transponder is passive, and ships ready to emit its unique code. How it would therefore know that it has already been assigned, I don't know. Perhaps rather than the chip knowing that it is not a virgin, the car's ECU knows it is not a virgin by the fact it is emitting the code already - maybe the very first time it emits the code, it emits a message which basically tells the car it is a virgin? I don't really know, just guessing.

Unless the code that the chip emits is affected by the exact RF wave transmitted by the car - maybe the car knows its RF wave is in the range of x and y, and therefore to expect to receive a transponder code within z and aa?

You had a lot of questions earlier in the thread - any still unanswered?

Will retry again tomorrow and hopefully this time it will program the remote. Wanted a new transponder for this flip key so had a local auto locksmith out but he claimed he could not get the retrieve the SKC from the car.

Would it be worth buying a VAG-Tacho cable and software off t'ebay along with a new virgin transponder in order to create myself a new transponder for this slip key or is it unlikely to work in view of what the local locksmith said?

Some people seem to be able to get tacho to work, some people get commander to work instead. Not sure what the reason behind it is, sorry. It might work!

having read through the entire thread there only appears to be the one procedure to program the remote, it's just the fact it's been repeated multiple times that makes it seem like there's 3 methods!

I've tried this method again and the remote still won't program to the car!

I have definitely seen more than one method - they all look similar, but I know the 2 differ by whether you are supposed to press lock or unlock on the new key, etc. double check them!

Right,got mine today but noticed red led does not flash when pressing lock/unlock button so guessing need new battery,how do you get to the battery on them ?

Open flip key, insert flat head screw driver in small channel in the middle of the 'trench' that the key blade usually sits in. Twist the screwdriver to prise the upper and low parts of the key apart. Then use a flatbed to prise apart the front and back of the lower part of the key - prise it open in the rubber part at the top of the key (the bit that will be hidden when the 2 halves go back together).

Can anyone confirm if buying a VAG-Tacho will definitely enable me to obtain the SKC and program a new blank transponder?

No. As I said, some people use tacho, some use commander. Not sure there is a definitive reason why one piece of software works for some, and some need the other. Unfortunately it is a different interface cable as well as a different piece of software.

Bought a remote key from a Leon Cupra and it still will not program to the car! Is there a chance the remote locking aspect of my vehicle is affected in some way? is there a fuse maybe?

Personally, I doubt it. Took me a while to get the process correct for my key to pair.

Couple of things i want to get right in my head before i go ahead:

1) Can the blade on the standard key be transferred into a flip headed fob?

2) Where can you pick up the circuit board by itself of the flip headed fob as the two buttoned fob's circuit is no use. Can't see any sold separately on fleabay.

3) Have two keys at present, 1 standard and 1 two buttoned (central locking buttons don't work). Does it matter which key is in Ignition when programming flip headed key?

Thanks

1) pretty sure this is a no, the exposed part is identical, but I'm pretty sure the bit of the key inside the black plastic (on the standard key) is different. You could cut it to fit, I have done did before.
2) why do you want a circuit? Buy a flip ke off ebay with the internals included and repair to your car. I have seen them listed, but not often.

3) no, don't think it matters.

 

[Brettyboy]

Done it at last !!

Bought this a VW flip key from ebay and had the blank key blade cut but on going to program it the remote will not program and operate the locking/unlocking of the doors. Am I doing something wrong or is it the wrong remote? It's a 2001 Leon Cupra.

Finally have got flip key working the central locking,learnt the hard way but got there in the end.

Right if you have a 2001 Leon or older it will only work with a 433mhz remote

Heres where i got mine http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1J0-959-7...CarParts_SM&hash=item27bfe8f54e#ht_3348wt_944

I only needed the fob as already had the blade bit http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170802516...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2652wt_944

So happy days at last

 

[AshFR]

Finally have got flip key working the central locking,learnt the hard way but got there in the end.

Right if you have a 2001 Leon or older it will only work with a 433mhz remote

Heres where i got mine http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1J0-959-7...CarParts_SM&hash=item27bfe8f54e#ht_3348wt_944

I only needed the fob as already had the blade bit http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170802516...NX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2652wt_944

So happy days at last

This is good news. So lets take my leon for instance, its a 54 plate (2005). What key would i need so it would work? Also would a 2 button one work? Cheers.

 

[Brettyboy]

This is good news. So lets take my leon for instance, its a 54 plate (2005). What key would i need so it would work? Also would a 2 button one work? Cheers.

433 & 434mhz will work on urs,unless you can get the boot to work no point having a 3 button altho they do work.

Loads of 434mhz flip keys on ebay

 

[JamesL]

Just get the cheapest one you can find Ash

I've noticed that the snealy beggars on ebay are selling shells only with no internals now, and pricing them as if they have internals. Frustrating that you have to be even more meticulous to make sure you get one you need! I bought the top and bottom halves of mine separately in the end.

 

[Aliaksei]

Hi guys, need help. I'm trying to match the flip key to my toledo 04'.

I have the 1st original remote key (433mhz 5FA 007 680 hella) that I put into ignition. Turn it to lit up the dash. Then I take the 2nd key that needs to be matched (used key from vw polo 2010, 434 mhz 5FA 010 180 - 00) and put it into the lock. Close the car with 2nd key, press the unlock button (tried both once and twice) on the 2nd key, wait 6 second, press unlock button again on the second key again, remove the 1st key from ignition, check it - nothing, no sounds/horns/beeps at all, and the 2nd key does't remotely unlock the car:-(.

Do you think I'm doing something wrong? Maybe this is because I'm using the used key not th e new one?

Thanks in advance

 

[JamesL]

Mine didn't work first time, keep trying, double check you are turning the key the right way to lock the door, and also you can try pressing lock instead of unlock when trying to pair it.

There are about 3 different methods, try them all!

 

[andymac91]

could you just swap the button section over instead of swapping the blade and chip?
Also i can get the button section cheap but it has already been programmed to another car, is there a way to code it to mine?
Cheers

 

[Brettyboy]

could you just swap the button section over instead of swapping the blade and chip?
Also i can get the button section cheap but it has already been programmed to another car, is there a way to code it to mine?
Cheers

Read page 1 of this thread

 

[Aliaksei]

Hey guys, I found the site autokeytransponder dot com that seems to have the key that I need. Does anybody every order from them, are they reliable?

 

[JamesL]

Most people just use ebay tbh!

 

[Amcm]

does it matter if you only have 1 key for the leon? will i still be able to program the new key?

 

[kosymodo]

Quick question...saves trawling through the previous pages which I think are largely irrelevant to this question...what do I need to buy/do in order to convert a working original fixed blade key into a flip key? It's the only key I have.

Thanks in advance folks

 

[Brettyboy]

Try reading the 1st page of the thread

 

[kosymodo]

Try reading the 1st page of the thread

I did...I don't have 2 keys with transponders in

 

[Brettyboy]

U need to buy a flip key can get them on ebay,if ur seat is 2001 it needs to be 433mhz if 2002 onwards can be 433 or 434mhz,get the key cut that will enable you to program remote central locking then put transponder into flip key,if you want 2 working keys u'll need to buy a transponder & get it programmed using vag.com

 

[kosymodo]

U need to buy a flip key can get them on ebay,if ur seat is 2001 it needs to be 433mhz if 2002 onwards can be 433 or 434mhz,get the key cut that will enable you to program remote central locking then put transponder into flip key,if you want 2 working keys u'll need to buy a transponder & get it programmed using vag.com

Thanks...just the advice I needed!

 

[milner575]

I need this as well as I only have one key to begin with so need someone near to me that can program it for me

 

[Brettyboy]

There is a vag.com section on the home page where you can do a request